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Xero
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I would be satisfied.
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kansas bob
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| In the 2nd round Denver needs Sly Williams rather than Arthur Brown. They have OLB but need DT's (depending on who they sign in FA. |
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rpmwr19
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Hard to have a perfect 7 rounds when all the picks aren't right 
The Cardinals have both Vikings 6ths and we have their 7th.
 the only thing I really had an issue with is the linebacker pick. He's no different than Jasper Brinkley.
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goldfishwars
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| rpmwr19 wrote: | Hard to have a perfect 7 rounds when all the picks aren't right
The Cardinals have both Vikings 6ths and we have their 7th.
the only thing I really had an issue with is the linebacker pick. He's no different than Jasper Brinkley. |
Dang, I'll correct that 
I disagree on Nico - had the same pre-conceptions about him going into the Senior Bowl, but that guy showed he can stay on the field for all three downs during that week. He showed some fluid movement in coverage, I was pleasantly surprised. Many analysts commented the same thing - I think his performances did a lot for his draft stock. |
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Suffering_Bills
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Outstanding draft for the Bills.
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vikingsrule
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| goldfishwars wrote: | | rpmwr19 wrote: | Hard to have a perfect 7 rounds when all the picks aren't right
The Cardinals have both Vikings 6ths and we have their 7th.
the only thing I really had an issue with is the linebacker pick. He's no different than Jasper Brinkley. |
Dang, I'll correct that
I disagree on Nico - had the same pre-conceptions about him going into the Senior Bowl, but that guy showed he can stay on the field for all three downs during that week. He showed some fluid movement in coverage, I was pleasantly surprised. Many analysts commented the same thing - I think his performances did a lot for his draft stock. |
The big thing about the Vikings scheme is they need the MLB to get deep in coverage, 10-15 yards downfield to cut the middle off between the Safety. Johnson may have solid skills for most coverage assignments in typical defenses, but what the Vikings require from its MLB is very atypical in terms of coverage assignments. A MLB is a key piece to the Tampa 2 and having a guy with great range, athleticism and instincts is completely necessary.
I view Johnson as a fit for a down hill style of defense while being a player who can stayo n the field for three downs in more typical zone assignments. The Vikings need a true athlete at MLB so I see little upside with Johnson.
Now, Johnson could be a two down MLB allowing a more athletic WLB to move into the nickel MLB role. The Vikings did that more in 2011 when EJ Henderson was in the middle in base and Erin Henderson moved to the middle in nickel. It didnt work out well because neither Henderson had any ability and Nico Johnson appears to be too similar to those players. He would be a two down player in the Vikes defense.
If it were up to me, I would put a third Safety as the MLB in nickel and dime sets when I know a run play wont be called. Its so hard to find a MLB to have the kind of range needed to run this type of defense. A Safety wouldnt have much issue. |
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plan9misfit
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:12 am Post subject: Re: This Mock Has 7 Perfect Rounds... |
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| goldfishwars wrote: | Dallas Cowboys
1 *Sharrif Floyd DT Florida
2 *Travis Frederick C Wisconsin
3 Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia
4 *Tyler Bray QB Tennessee
5 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA
6 Garrett Gilkey OG Chadron State |
That would be an OUTSTANDING draft. Great job!
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goldfishwars
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| vikingsrule wrote: | | goldfishwars wrote: | | rpmwr19 wrote: | Hard to have a perfect 7 rounds when all the picks aren't right
The Cardinals have both Vikings 6ths and we have their 7th.
the only thing I really had an issue with is the linebacker pick. He's no different than Jasper Brinkley. |
Dang, I'll correct that
I disagree on Nico - had the same pre-conceptions about him going into the Senior Bowl, but that guy showed he can stay on the field for all three downs during that week. He showed some fluid movement in coverage, I was pleasantly surprised. Many analysts commented the same thing - I think his performances did a lot for his draft stock. |
The big thing about the Vikings scheme is they need the MLB to get deep in coverage, 10-15 yards downfield to cut the middle off between the Safety. Johnson may have solid skills for most coverage assignments in typical defenses, but what the Vikings require from its MLB is very atypical in terms of coverage assignments. A MLB is a key piece to the Tampa 2 and having a guy with great range, athleticism and instincts is completely necessary.
I view Johnson as a fit for a down hill style of defense while being a player who can stayo n the field for three downs in more typical zone assignments. The Vikings need a true athlete at MLB so I see little upside with Johnson.
Now, Johnson could be a two down MLB allowing a more athletic WLB to move into the nickel MLB role. The Vikings did that more in 2011 when EJ Henderson was in the middle in base and Erin Henderson moved to the middle in nickel. It didnt work out well because neither Henderson had any ability and Nico Johnson appears to be too similar to those players. He would be a two down player in the Vikes defense.
If it were up to me, I would put a third Safety as the MLB in nickel and dime sets when I know a run play wont be called. Its so hard to find a MLB to have the kind of range needed to run this type of defense. A Safety wouldnt have much issue. |
Great feedback - I'll note it. |
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akintu
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Atlanta Falcons
1 *Sam Montgomery DE LSU
2 *Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
3 Brandon Williams DT Missouri Southern State
4 *Le'Veon Bell RB Michigan State
5 Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
6 DeVonte Holloman OLB South Carolina
7 Alec Lemon WR Syracuse
Nice, but I'd rather have Cornelius Washington to Devin Taylor in the 5th
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mr fluffles
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| Can't really argue with any Bills pick. I personally prefer Matt Barkley over Smith but I am in the minority... for now. |
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BengalsEra
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| great job with the bengals |
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diamondcutter27
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sorry nothing perfec about KC's first 2 picks.Joeckel+Barkley = terrible
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BillsGuy82
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| Philadelphia has the best draft here IMO |
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I'd be VERY HAPPY if it went down like this...
Oakland Raiders
1 Star Lotulelei DT Utah
3 Chase Thomas OLB Stanford
4 Leon McFadden CB San Diego State
6 *Jawan Jamison RB Rutgers
7 Quanterus Smith DE/OLB Western Kentucky
7 Jeff Baca OG UCLA
Hits our needs and with quality/value. I see so many mocks with us taking Moore and was happy to see him off the board and Star the pick.  |
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Nobody
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Great mock, GFW.
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