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Raiders4sho!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any word on HOF game? I'm hoping with sapp oak could sneak I'm there, probably not though lol
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad Cris Carter finally got in. About time the Dolphins get a WR in the HOF.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plan9misfit wrote:
CornOnDaCobb wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
BenchSanchez wrote:
Not a Carter fan, would've liked to have seen Strahan.


Strahan in not a HOFer in my opinion. To me, a HOF player is a guy who changed the way the game is played and/or revolutionized the position. Strahan didn't come close to doing that. He had a great career and would be a 1st ballot member of the Hall of Very Good, but not the HOF.


He had one of the best seasons ever for a defensive end by breaking the sacks record. Thats pretty damn revolutionary.


That's not revolutionary, especially since Favre literally laid down on that play. It was a great season, but not a revolutionary season.


A sack is a sack. Peyton Manning has done that his whole career. I get what you're saying though. If that play wasn't THE record breaker. I agree with the good but not great comment. Strahan doesn't pop in my head when I think of ultra dominant pass rushers.
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Who got that sack? Cameron Jordan? Jordan Cameron? Michael Jordan? Cam Cameron? IM SO CONFUSED!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillSabre wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
CornOnDaCobb wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
BenchSanchez wrote:
Not a Carter fan, would've liked to have seen Strahan.


Strahan in not a HOFer in my opinion. To me, a HOF player is a guy who changed the way the game is played and/or revolutionized the position. Strahan didn't come close to doing that. He had a great career and would be a 1st ballot member of the Hall of Very Good, but not the HOF.


He had one of the best seasons ever for a defensive end by breaking the sacks record. Thats pretty damn revolutionary.


That's not revolutionary, especially since Favre literally laid down on that play. It was a great season, but not a revolutionary season.


A sack is a sack. Peyton Manning has done that his whole career. I get what you're saying though. If that play wasn't THE record breaker. I agree with the good but not great comment. Strahan doesn't pop in my head when I think of ultra dominant pass rushers.


His 141 sacks would disagree.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting really crowded next year.

Kevin Mawae
Kurt Warner
Derrick Brooks
Zach Thomas
Walter Jones
Junior Seau
Isaac Bruce
Chris Samuels
Tony Dungy

All of them become eligible. Another WR to crowd the position again. I know it's early but does anyone have any predictions for next years class?

I would say Strahan, Reed, Brooks, Jones and Dungy.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seriously27 wrote:
Getting really crowded next year.

Kevin Mawae
Kurt Warner
Derrick Brooks
Zach Thomas
Walter Jones
Junior Seau
Isaac Bruce
Chris Samuels
Tony Dungy

All of them become eligible. Another WR to crowd the position again. I know it's early but does anyone have any predictions for next years class?

I would say Strahan, Reed, Brooks, Jones and Dungy.


Replace Reed with Seau
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vikefan79 wrote:
seriously27 wrote:
Getting really crowded next year.

Kevin Mawae
Kurt Warner
Derrick Brooks
Zach Thomas
Walter Jones
Junior Seau
Isaac Bruce
Chris Samuels
Tony Dungy

All of them become eligible. Another WR to crowd the position again. I know it's early but does anyone have any predictions for next years class?

I would say Strahan, Reed, Brooks, Jones and Dungy.


Replace Reed with Seau


I wanted to but I didn't know about both linebackers going in at the same time. There is a LB jam coming though.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketchup wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
I still wonder what criminal act Kevin Greene must have committed to one of the voters for him to still not be in.
You would think the 3rd all time leader in sacks would be able to get into the HoF.. Would have selected him and Strahan over Tuna.
Defensive players like Greene or also Haley are maybe mentioned to be pass rushers with the voters and Peppers is more likely to be enshrined than Ware in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LA is the only GOAT in the bunch and he doesnt even make the thread title Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to all of them. It's a well deserved honour for all of them.
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Raiders3SB wrote:
Tim Brown will never make it ever.


Disagree. Carter finally making it is great news for Tim Brown and Andre Reed.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plan9misfit wrote:
J Pep 4 Step wrote:
Bohlmann20 wrote:
I can't believe Sapp got in, but props to Carter.


Honestly, what is surprising about him getting in? He's the epitome of a HoF player. And makes a strong case for 1st ballot.


The timing of one being inducted is irrelevant since there isn't a hierarchy in the HOF. A HOF player is a HOF player. To suggest that someone deserves to be there, just "not as a 1st ballot" inductee is really, really stupid. It's not as if his numbers are going to improve from that year to the next. If he's a HOF player, then he should get in, period. The decision to induct a player should never be based on the 1st, 2nd, 40th, etc., year of eligibility because that undermines what the HOF is.


Youre right. I agree 100%. In principle.

Unfortunately, the current logjam has created a climate where I think you have to approach things a little differently. Where, right or wrong, you have to ask yourself, "Does this guy deserve to go to the head of the line? Or should he wait like all these other guys have had to?"
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seriously27 wrote:
Getting really crowded next year.

Kevin Mawae
Kurt Warner
Derrick Brooks
Zach Thomas
Walter Jones
Junior Seau
Isaac Bruce
Chris Samuels
Tony Dungy

All of them become eligible. Another WR to crowd the position again. I know it's early but does anyone have any predictions for next years class?

I would say Strahan, Reed, Brooks, Jones and Dungy.
And I would say all those guys save for Zach Thomas & Kevin Mawae, are probably going to get in eventually as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Samuels shouldnt. The 4th best tackle of his era shouldn't make it in.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superman(DH23) wrote:
seriously27 wrote:
Getting really crowded next year.

Kevin Mawae
Kurt Warner
Derrick Brooks
Zach Thomas
Walter Jones
Junior Seau
Isaac Bruce
Chris Samuels
Tony Dungy

All of them become eligible. Another WR to crowd the position again. I know it's early but does anyone have any predictions for next years class?

I would say Strahan, Reed, Brooks, Jones and Dungy.
And I would say all those guys save for Zach Thomas & Kevin Mawae, are probably going to get in eventually as well.


Give me Thomas before Samuels, no question. Walter Jones, Junior Seau, and Derrick Brooks are all legitimate first ballot guys.
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