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at23steelers


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: AT23 Mock Reply with quote

Used CBS Sports, instead of pulling from thin air. Sorry I dont have sweet cards like that one poster on here!

1: NT Jesse Williams
2: RB Giovani Bernard
3: FS Rambo
4: FS Swearinger
5: ILB AJ Klein
6: WR Mellette
7: QB Jeff Tuel
7: OLB Quanterus Smith

I don't like taking two safeties, but then again look at all their ages. We can put Golden on PS or one of these rookies. Then in a year or two we will have Golden, Rambo, and Swearinger. I could see Golden excelling and playing much better at the Mundy role, when we use 3 safety subpackages. I also don't like a RB in the 2nd, but he posed good value and could add another dimension to our game. I also considered OG Warford but I think we're moving to a ZBS system and OLB Chase Thomas there. I know there isn't any pass-rushing OLB which scares me, but there just isn't any it appears for this draft other than the first round or two. They're either too small or slow-footed.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think Kruger falls to the 7th. Too many teams playing 3-4.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jebrick wrote:
I do not think Kruger falls to the 7th. Too many teams playing 3-4.


agreed.

not a huge fan of Bernard, though not bad. I'd take Swearinger before Rambo, but theyr'e both good picks. Not sure we need them both though as I think the coaching staff is fairly happy with Golden's progress, but this isn't a bad draft to target some safeties.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
jebrick wrote:
I do not think Kruger falls to the 7th. Too many teams playing 3-4.


agreed.

not a huge fan of Bernard, though not bad. I'd take Swearinger before Rambo, but theyr'e both good picks. Not sure we need them both though as I think the coaching staff is fairly happy with Golden's progress, but this isn't a bad draft to target some safeties.


I'll take it as a value pick then! That's why CBS Sports has him listed as. I don't like taking both either, but saw them as the best options of who I could pick from. For the plus side, they wouldn't have to start for a couple years and learn behind Clark and Polamalu. We need 2 safeties after them, so I hope 2 of the 3 young safeties will be the future, with like I said 3 safety subpackages.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know its going against the prevailing wisdom on here, but I absolutely hate the idea of taking Jesse Williams in the first. I could get behind him in the second, but the only nose tackle (after Starr) worth a first round grade is Hankins. Williams can be had in the second.
Think we need to do more to address the LB situation, both inside and out. First round we should have the pick of ILBs, as its unlikely any come off the board before that. I know we drafted spence last year, and don't know what he brings to the table, but to me thats one of our key needs. Like Bernard or Lacy in the second, like Lattimore in the third even more. Yes, we need to address Safety, and I'd be happy with either of your choices, just not both. Like Mellet, and don't know enough about the 7th rounders to have an opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this draft a lot actually. My only piece of criticism (constructive of course) would be that a pass rusher should be picked on day 2 of the draft. I would think a team like Seattle would be willing to trade up for a wideout like Allen or Patterson in which case I believe the Steelers would still have a good shot at drafting Jessie Williams in the first while getting extra day 2 picks out of the deal. There seem to be a good amount of mid round pass rushers so stocking up on picks would be nice. I actually consider him the safest pick for the Steelers.

If Gio is there in the 2nd it'd be tough to pass him up. If we traded down in the 1st and picked up an extra 2nd then I would be all for this pick no doubt about it. Still not a bad pick.

Rambo could possibly sneak into the late 2nd but I could see him still being there around our pick in the 3rd and I really hope the guy's there when we pick. He's not a "Can't Miss" prospect but overall his game is solid and would be a great value pick in the mid 3rd round.

Swearinger would be another great value pick if he happened to be there in the 4th. I could see him being gone mid 3rd or 4th so perhaps it's possible he falls to us.

Klein seems like he'd fit well in this defense. He's got a real nose for the ball and is fairly good at defending against the run. Big bodied guy able to take on big blockers to plug up running lanes.

With no pass rushers selected yet I would enjoy seeing a guy like Quanterus Smith or Meshak Williams at this point. But all in all good mock man!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@steeloasis: Thanks bro! Maybe I shouldn't do CBS Sports haha. Didn't really plan on picking a RB that high or 2 safeties but they fell to our position. Btw, I switched my last pick, which people complained that Kruger wouldn't be there with Smith. Idk, what we're going to do with our pass-rushing situation, but having a nose tackle like Jesse Williams sure would help.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
jebrick wrote:
I do not think Kruger falls to the 7th. Too many teams playing 3-4.


agreed.

not a huge fan of Bernard, though not bad. I'd take Swearinger before Rambo, but theyr'e both good picks. Not sure we need them both though as I think the coaching staff is fairly happy with Golden's progress, but this isn't a bad draft to target some safeties.


Swearinger scares the crap out of me. I watched a game where, on three consecutive plays, he got a personal foul, a pick 6, and a personal foul. He is an amazing athlete but seems to play out of control.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jebrick wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
jebrick wrote:
I do not think Kruger falls to the 7th. Too many teams playing 3-4.


agreed.

not a huge fan of Bernard, though not bad. I'd take Swearinger before Rambo, but theyr'e both good picks. Not sure we need them both though as I think the coaching staff is fairly happy with Golden's progress, but this isn't a bad draft to target some safeties.


Swearinger scares the crap out of me. I watched a game where, on three consecutive plays, he got a personal foul, a pick 6, and a personal foul. He is an amazing athlete but seems to play out of control.


You think it's like an Anthony Smith situation? There was a guy with all the athletic ability in the world but his head was made out of rocks.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not too bad. I would switch the 3rd with a WR or LB. However, I am of the minority here in thinking that we do need to fine out what we have in Spence and let Worilds start.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jebrick wrote:

Swearinger scares the crap out of me. I watched a game where, on three consecutive plays, he got a personal foul, a pick 6, and a personal foul. He is an amazing athlete but seems to play out of control.


yes, and I have faith in the guiding hand of Carnell Lake as well as the results of someone finishing off puberty.

the difference between Swearinger and Anthony Smith is that Smith was legitimately football stupid. Swearinger is just extremely aggressive. That and he is about 10x the player on the field that Smith ever was.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not bad but i wouldnt draft two FS's
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jebrick wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
jebrick wrote:
I do not think Kruger falls to the 7th. Too many teams playing 3-4.


agreed.

not a huge fan of Bernard, though not bad. I'd take Swearinger before Rambo, but theyr'e both good picks. Not sure we need them both though as I think the coaching staff is fairly happy with Golden's progress, but this isn't a bad draft to target some safeties.


Swearinger scares the crap out of me. I watched a game where, on three consecutive plays, he got a personal foul, a pick 6, and a personal foul. He is an amazing athlete but seems to play out of control.
I'm pretty sure I know the sequence you are talking about but it actually went personal foul, personal foul, pick six/personal foul. The first was a horse caller tackle. The second personal foul was an "illegal blow to the head" which actually looked pretty clean in the replay. The final penalty was for throwing the ball in the stand after he took it back, really just seemed like he was too excited to make that play after he cost his team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LEi_-C9IVo
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bernard and Rambo are the only picks I really like however I think its an alright mock
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it for the most part. Rambo's character concerns me but he is a ballhawk. Not sure the Steelers will gamble on him even though they did select Adams last season and he had the same problems. I would switch one of the safeties though. However, like you mention, there might not be an OLB worth taking without it being a reach in that slot.
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