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DTMW78 
Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Posts: 625 Location: Birmingham - England
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:53 am Post subject: Mock draft thoughts |
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Hey fellas, I'm taking part in a Mock draft game as the Tampa GM on another site.
Just wanted some thoughts on what I've done so far and what direction I should take in the draft.
No free agency so I made a few trades which are listed at the bottom of the depth chart
OFFENSE
QB Josh Freeman | Dan Orlovsky
RB Doug Martin | D.J Ware | Michael Smith
FB Erik Lorig
TE Martellus Bennett | Dallas Clark | Nate Byham
WR Keenan Allen | Tiquan Underwood | Sammie Stroughter | David Douglas
WR Vincent Jackson | Chris Owusu | Roscoe Parrish
LT Donald Penn
LG Carl Nicks | Roger Allen
C Jeremy Zuttah | Ted Larson
RG Davin Joseph | Derek Hardman
RT Demar Dotson | Jeremy Trueblood
DEFENSE
LDE Michael Bennett | Markus White
LDT Gerald McCoy | Corvey Irvin | Lazarius Levingston
RDT Ahtyba Rubin | Roy Miller | Gary Gibson | Matthew Masifilo
RDE Adrian Clayborn | Daniel Te'o Nesheim |
SLB Quincy Black | Adam Hayward | Dekoda Watson
MLB Mason Foster | Najee Goode
WLB Lavonte David | Jacob Cutrera
LCB Darrelle Revis | E.J Biggers | Myron Lewis |Danny Gorrer | Brandon McDonald
FS Kendrick Lewis ¦ Ronde Barber | Ahmad Black | Cody Grim
SS Mark Barron | Keith Tandy
RCB Cary Williams | LeQuan Lewis
SPECIAL TEAMS
K Connor Barth
P Michael Koenen
LS Andrew Economos
TRADES
Tampa get Cary Williams + R7
Ravens get Mike Williams WR
Tampa get Martellus Bennett
Giants get LeGarrette Blount
Tampa get Ahtyba Rubin
Browns get Eric Wright + R7 from Ravens
Tampa get R1/17 + R3/79
Steelers get R1/13
Tampa get R1/22 + R3/78 + R5/142
Rams get R1/17
Tampa get Darrelle Revis
Jets get R1/22 + Luke Stocker + Leonard Johnson + Da'Quan Bowers
Tampa ger R1/20
Bears get R2/43 + R3/79 + Jamon Meredith
Tampa get Kendrick Lewis
Chiefs get Arrelious Benn
DRAFT PICKS
R1/20 Keenan Allen WR Cal
R3/73
R3/78 from STL
R4/109
R4/123 from N.E
R5/140
R5/142 from STL
R6/171
What do you guys think so far? _________________
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REDandPEWTER 
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 3804
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Mock draft thoughts |
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| DTMW78 wrote: | Hey fellas, I'm taking part in a Mock draft game as the Tampa GM on another site.
Just wanted some thoughts on what I've done so far and what direction I should take in the draft.
No free agency so I made a few trades which are listed at the bottom of the depth chart
OFFENSE
QB Josh Freeman | Dan Orlovsky
RB Doug Martin | D.J Ware | Michael Smith
FB Erik Lorig
TE Martellus Bennett | Dallas Clark | Nate Byham
WR Keenan Allen | Tiquan Underwood | Sammie Stroughter | David Douglas
WR Vincent Jackson | Chris Owusu | Roscoe Parrish
LT Donald Penn
LG Carl Nicks | Roger Allen
C Jeremy Zuttah | Ted Larson
RG Davin Joseph | Derek Hardman
RT Demar Dotson | Jeremy Trueblood
DEFENSE
LDE Michael Bennett | Markus White
LDT Gerald McCoy | Corvey Irvin | Lazarius Levingston
RDT Ahtyba Rubin | Roy Miller | Gary Gibson | Matthew Masifilo
RDE Adrian Clayborn | Daniel Te'o Nesheim |
SLB Quincy Black | Adam Hayward | Dekoda Watson
MLB Mason Foster | Najee Goode
WLB Lavonte David | Jacob Cutrera
LCB Darrelle Revis | E.J Biggers | Myron Lewis |Danny Gorrer | Brandon McDonald
FS Kendrick Lewis ¦ Ronde Barber | Ahmad Black | Cody Grim
SS Mark Barron | Keith Tandy
RCB Cary Williams | LeQuan Lewis
SPECIAL TEAMS
K Connor Barth
P Michael Koenen
LS Andrew Economos
TRADES
Tampa get Cary Williams + R7
Ravens get Mike Williams WR
Tampa get Martellus Bennett
Giants get LeGarrette Blount
Tampa get Ahtyba Rubin
Browns get Eric Wright + R7 from Ravens
Tampa get R1/17 + R3/79
Steelers get R1/13
Tampa get R1/22 + R3/78 + R5/142
Rams get R1/17
Tampa get Darrelle Revis
Jets get R1/22 + Luke Stocker + Leonard Johnson + Da'Quan Bowers
Tampa ger R1/20
Bears get R2/43 + R3/79 + Jamon Meredith
Tampa get Kendrick Lewis
Chiefs get Arrelious Benn
DRAFT PICKS
R1/20 Keenan Allen WR Cal
R3/73
R3/78 from STL
R4/109
R4/123 from N.E
R5/140
R5/142 from STL
R6/171
What do you guys think so far? |
You're playing too much madden. I can't even follow or even think why you're making moves that are ridiculous and dont even pertain to us. Creating holes at WR? Mike Williams is a stud.
I can't even follow what your plan is man. |
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DTMW78 
Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Posts: 625 Location: Birmingham - England
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Mock draft thoughts |
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| REDandPEWTER wrote: | | DTMW78 wrote: | Hey fellas, I'm taking part in a Mock draft game as the Tampa GM on another site.
Just wanted some thoughts on what I've done so far and what direction I should take in the draft.
No free agency so I made a few trades which are listed at the bottom of the depth chart
OFFENSE
QB Josh Freeman | Dan Orlovsky
RB Doug Martin | D.J Ware | Michael Smith
FB Erik Lorig
TE Martellus Bennett | Dallas Clark | Nate Byham
WR Keenan Allen | Tiquan Underwood | Sammie Stroughter | David Douglas
WR Vincent Jackson | Chris Owusu | Roscoe Parrish
LT Donald Penn
LG Carl Nicks | Roger Allen
C Jeremy Zuttah | Ted Larson
RG Davin Joseph | Derek Hardman
RT Demar Dotson | Jeremy Trueblood
DEFENSE
LDE Michael Bennett | Markus White
LDT Gerald McCoy | Corvey Irvin | Lazarius Levingston
RDT Ahtyba Rubin | Roy Miller | Gary Gibson | Matthew Masifilo
RDE Adrian Clayborn | Daniel Te'o Nesheim |
SLB Quincy Black | Adam Hayward | Dekoda Watson
MLB Mason Foster | Najee Goode
WLB Lavonte David | Jacob Cutrera
LCB Darrelle Revis | E.J Biggers | Myron Lewis |Danny Gorrer | Brandon McDonald
FS Kendrick Lewis ¦ Ronde Barber | Ahmad Black | Cody Grim
SS Mark Barron | Keith Tandy
RCB Cary Williams | LeQuan Lewis
SPECIAL TEAMS
K Connor Barth
P Michael Koenen
LS Andrew Economos
TRADES
Tampa get Cary Williams + R7
Ravens get Mike Williams WR
Tampa get Martellus Bennett
Giants get LeGarrette Blount
Tampa get Ahtyba Rubin
Browns get Eric Wright + R7 from Ravens
Tampa get R1/17 + R3/79
Steelers get R1/13
Tampa get R1/22 + R3/78 + R5/142
Rams get R1/17
Tampa get Darrelle Revis
Jets get R1/22 + Luke Stocker + Leonard Johnson + Da'Quan Bowers
Tampa ger R1/20
Bears get R2/43 + R3/79 + Jamon Meredith
Tampa get Kendrick Lewis
Chiefs get Arrelious Benn
DRAFT PICKS
R1/20 Keenan Allen WR Cal
R3/73
R3/78 from STL
R4/109
R4/123 from N.E
R5/140
R5/142 from STL
R6/171
What do you guys think so far? |
You're playing too much madden. I can't even follow or even think why you're making moves that are ridiculous and dont even pertain to us. Creating holes at WR? Mike Williams is a stud.
I can't even follow what your plan is man. |
My plan was to improve the secondary.
Without free agency I had to give something up and thought that Williams could be replaced.
I then traded back picking up extra picks before trading my 1st and some young prospects for Revis.
Which of the trades do you not like? _________________
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REDandPEWTER 
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 3804
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty much all of them. Cary Williams is a Free Agent. You're giving up Mike Williams, whos a proven #2 guy and big threat we have on offense. Don't have to trade for him.
I don't like trading for Revis. I think the risk is too big coming off the knee injury. I don't like his attitude. No CB is worth 16 mil a year, and that is what he wants. See what the Bills did for Mario Williams: They're no playoff team.
This is extremely unrealistic. I still think even if we sign Bennett, we still need another DE. Bowers and Clayborn are entering their 3rd years. Both are still huge question marks. I don't think Bowers sees a 2nd contract with his injury history and limitations. Clayborn is coming off a serious knee injury.
The secondary does not need to add elite CBs. We need guys who are solid/good starters. |
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DTMW78 
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| REDandPEWTER wrote: | Pretty much all of them. Cary Williams is a Free Agent. You're giving up Mike Williams, whos a proven #2 guy and big threat we have on offense. Don't have to trade for him.
I don't like trading for Revis. I think the risk is too big coming off the knee injury. I don't like his attitude. No CB is worth 16 mil a year, and that is what he wants. See what the Bills did for Mario Williams: They're no playoff team.
This is extremely unrealistic. I still think even if we sign Bennett, we still need another DE. Bowers and Clayborn are entering their 3rd years. Both are still huge question marks. I don't think Bowers sees a 2nd contract with his injury history and limitations. Clayborn is coming off a serious knee injury.
The secondary does not need to add elite CBs. We need guys who are solid/good starters. |
No free agency in this game otherwise I would have used the F.A period to add to the secondary and then drafted accordingly.
Why not add elite players if possible, Revis may very well be landing in Tampa this off-season. _________________
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REDandPEWTER 
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| DTMW78 wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | Pretty much all of them. Cary Williams is a Free Agent. You're giving up Mike Williams, whos a proven #2 guy and big threat we have on offense. Don't have to trade for him.
I don't like trading for Revis. I think the risk is too big coming off the knee injury. I don't like his attitude. No CB is worth 16 mil a year, and that is what he wants. See what the Bills did for Mario Williams: They're no playoff team.
This is extremely unrealistic. I still think even if we sign Bennett, we still need another DE. Bowers and Clayborn are entering their 3rd years. Both are still huge question marks. I don't think Bowers sees a 2nd contract with his injury history and limitations. Clayborn is coming off a serious knee injury.
The secondary does not need to add elite CBs. We need guys who are solid/good starters. |
No free agency in this game otherwise I would have used the F.A period to add to the secondary and then drafted accordingly.
Why not add elite players if possible, Revis may very well be landing in Tampa this off-season. |
I GURANTEE REVIS DOES NOT COME TO TAMPA THIS OFF_SEASON! :  |
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Soul Glo 
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 2758 Location: FL
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| not bad. only trade I have a problem with is the Mike Williams move, he is a better WR than Williams is a corner and would not want to try and replace him after we have such a good thing going there. but overall looks like you got good value on everything besides that. |
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indifference
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Upgrade the #3 WR spot in the draft. Its a glaring need. |
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DTMW78 
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| indifference wrote: | | Upgrade the #3 WR spot in the draft. Its a glaring need. |
I was thinking Da'Rick Rogers with my next pick. _________________
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CHOMP_CHOMP 
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| DTMW78 wrote: | | indifference wrote: | | Upgrade the #3 WR spot in the draft. Its a glaring need. |
I was thinking Da'Rick Rogers with my next pick. |
I think this is why people are un-happy with he Mike Williams trade.
You move a proven #2 and now you are forced to take 2 WRs with early picks. It hamstrings your draft. And you end up with guys like Keenan Allen and DaRick Rodgers, who in my opinion are 2 of the biggest question marks at WR in the draft.
Allen could run a 4.7 forty yard dash and i wouldnt be surprised and Rodgers has so much off the field baggage. I would just rather you kept Williams then you would be able to draft a CB who has the same talent has Cary Williams and still have a viable #2 option for Freeman. _________________
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DTMW78 
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| CHOMP_CHOMP wrote: | | DTMW78 wrote: | | indifference wrote: | | Upgrade the #3 WR spot in the draft. Its a glaring need. |
I was thinking Da'Rick Rogers with my next pick. |
I think this is why people are un-happy with he Mike Williams trade.
You move a proven #2 and now you are forced to take 2 WRs with early picks. It hamstrings your draft. And you end up with guys like Keenan Allen and DaRick Rodgers, who in my opinion are 2 of the biggest question marks at WR in the draft.
Allen could run a 4.7 forty yard dash and i wouldnt be surprised and Rodgers has so much off the field baggage. I would just rather you kept Williams then you would be able to draft a CB who has the same talent has Cary Williams and still have a viable #2 option for Freeman. |
Well iI have my 1+2 in Jackson and Allen so i could wait to get another wr.
What about QB, how would you guys feel if Barkley was drafted? _________________
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