John Kuhn 2.6 Million cap hit 2013

GreenMeansGo · Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 55

With 211 yards from scrimmage this year, he's due to make about $12,300 a yard next year.
I know he keeps Rogers safe on 3rd down, but one of the te's could stay in a block as well as him.
Cut him and replace this off season.

Ketchup · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:42 am Post subject:

McCarthy has always raved about his versatility but you have to think TT will be on the look for a cheap draft pick to replace Kuhn's role. Just to much for what he brings to the table.
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incognito_man · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 26371 Location: Madison

IN addition, Rodgers raves about him too, but he just simply isn't worth that much.

GreenMeansGo · Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 55

A few years back he actually was good at getting 1st downs, on 3rd and short. What's his rate at that now? Anyone have that stat?

blankman0021 · Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 1425 Location: Eau Claire

Uhmmmmm, lots of very harsh posts by new members as of late. Pump the brakes.

We're not paying Kuhn the RB. We're paying Kuhn the FB/H-Back/ST Stud/ 3rd Down Pass Protector/short yardage back.

You get the point. But I do agree there is a point when you need a cheaper alternative. We have been riding with that FB on the PS for a few years now. Maybe it's his time to jump up (is he still on the roster?)

A draft pick could definitely fill in the ST roles, and FB/H-Back. But he definitely wouldn't fill in as a pass protector. Unless we find a member of the current roster who can do that reliably, or pick up a FA/draft pick who we feel comfortable running our offense (not as likely), we'll be regulated to pay Kuhn.

In the grand scheme of things his 2.3M salary isn't that much.

We'll see what direction TT is going to go in the coming months. I do agree that it is a virtual certainty that we draft a FB/H-Back player who can take Kuhns role unless we're relying on Taylor/Crabtree/Cooper etc to take over that spot.

A lot more goes into paying Kuhn than $/yards though.
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He was voted a top 100 player the league Confused

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palmy50 · Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 12526

I pay Kuhn until one of them takes that 3rd down/pass pro role from him. That's just not a big enough number to push him out the door over if there is not one to fill with at par.
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GreenMeansGo · Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 55

3rd highest paid fullback in the league with a his base salary this season. The highest 2 actually lead block for a running back. He played roughly a third of the 1200+ snaps this last season. Just not a much needed position in this offense any more. I know fan favorite, Rodgers favorite, etc. Heck, the crowd is so in love, they yell his name before the play now. If Benson and Grant are considered old, well he's the same age.

Actually this is not a negative post. I am positive the Pack can do just as well if not better spending less.

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GreenMeansGo · Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 55

Here's a cat off the street. Ryan Grant would take the league minimum for the 3rd down job. Rodgers likes him too and he would at least be a 50% upgrade.

blankman0021 · Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 1425 Location: Eau Claire

GreenMeansGo · Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 55

We picked Kuhn of the street, there's more like him. It's a short life in the NFL. His best was before 2012.

GreenMeansGo · Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 55

When Grant came in this year, the times he was in on 3rd down, he picked up the blitz fine. He's a 50% upgrade in that when there is a breakdown (common) he's an outlet that can get the 1st down. This avoids another short series/hit on Rodgers.