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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Want to know why I like Jim Tomsula so much? Reply with quote

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/01/49ers_could_have_multiple_cand.html

Check out this article and this last piece by Tomsula... the guy just get it!

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Tomsula added: "Everybody wants to categorize defenses with the big buzz words, 4-3, 3-4, bah, bah. You look at Dallas' 3-4 vs. the Texans' 3-4 vs. the Steelers' 3-4 vs. the Niners' 3-4 vs. the Green Bay Packers' 3-4 vs. the San Diego Chargers. Everything is a little different. ... The whole magic with the whole thing is how does it work with the players that you have. Obviously, you watch that with the Saints all the time. Their offense runs by the people that they have. When they add a new component, things change a little bit to work around that guy. So how do I put the pieces together in the puzzle to make it work."


I love it!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's my leading candidate for the job. I love what he's done with SF's D Line.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a feeling he's going to be the guy. The Saints beat writers keep bringing him up and theirs a reason we're waiting to hire a DC, he'll be playing in the Super Bowl.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like him too. He's up there with Donatell and Butler for me. I would be incredibly happy if he's the guy.

I think Romeo Crennal and Mangini might be the duo though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a feeling he's going to be the guy. The Saints beat writers keep bringing him up and theirs a reason we're waiting to hire a DC, he'll be playing in the Super Bowl.


He's the complete flip from Spags, Spags was like... this is my defense I need players to fit it.

Tomsula is like, give me your talent... I'll find a way to make it work!


Tomsula is the hard noised, no nonsense type of coach this team needs to be in charge of this project. He's not saying, "hey I need this and that" it's all about getting the best out of what you have with him.

Isaac Sopogoa - 4th round pick
Ray McDonald - 3rd round pick
Rickey Jean Francios - 7th round pick

Helped Justin Smith turn his career around!

THe dude's a stud!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF we did hire Tomsula(who I'd certainly love to get!), I do think the pick for us would be at the OLB position.

With Mike D saying the Saints think we're set at the NT position in squad(Bunkley), meaning our front 3 is set, our ILB's are set(Lofton/Hawthorne), Tomsula may opt to solidify the OLB position along side Martez and Junior. Mingo/Jordan/Moore would be the pick (I think Ansah is a 3-4 DE) for in that case.

Man Worm I think you might've changed my opinion on who my top choice is!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IF we did hire Tomsula(who I'd certainly love to get!), I do think the pick for us would be at the OLB position.

With Mike D saying the Saints think we're set at the NT position in squad(Bunkley), meaning our front 3 is set, our ILB's are set(Lofton/Hawthorne), Tomsula may opt to solidify the OLB position along side Martez and Junior. Mingo/Jordan/Moore would be the pick (I think Ansah is a 3-4 DE) for in that case.

Man Worm I think you might've changed my opinion on who my top choice is!

I think Martez would start at ILB before Hawthorne. Lofton+Martez would be a scary good ILB duo
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would still prefer an ILB than an OLB. I think Wilson and Galette have that covered just fine, maybe add depth but that can be found in later rounds. I def wouldn't mind trading back a little and getting another pick along with Ogletree.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think Martez will play ILB. He's good in coverage, super athletic and very very strong, he would have no trouble taking on OGs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really think Martez will play ILB. He's good in coverage, super athletic and very very strong, he would have no trouble taking on OGs.


I would much rather Tez at ILB with Lofton, than Hawthorne and Lofton. I really don't want Mingo if he's the only 3-4 OLB worth the 15th pick, so I hope we trade back and pick up a second.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Harper41 wrote:
I really think Martez will play ILB. He's good in coverage, super athletic and very very strong, he would have no trouble taking on OGs.


I would much rather Tez at ILB with Lofton, than Hawthorne and Lofton. I really don't want Mingo if he's the only 3-4 OLB worth the 15th pick, so I hope we trade back and pick up a second.

I wouldn't mind trading back and getting one of the OLB prospects that will be available in the late first like Alex Okafor or Margus Hunt
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawthorne is the only real proven LBer in coverage. Wilson hasn't been in coverage enough to be able to say he's good in coverage imo.

I think they'll try Wilson at OLB. With his athleticism, if he by chance picked up pass rushing moves, him and Junior could be good. I don't think they'll try Wilson at ILB, I think they'll keep Hawthorne there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hawthorne is the only real proven LBer in coverage. Wilson hasn't been in coverage enough to be able to say he's good in coverage imo.

I think they'll try Wilson at OLB. With his athleticism, if he by chance picked up pass rushing moves, him and Junior could be good. I don't think they'll try Wilson at ILB, I think they'll keep Hawthorne there.


I don't think they'll try it either, I just wish they would. Also, I would love to trade back and take Okafor.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harper41 wrote:
I really think Martez will play ILB. He's good in coverage, super athletic and very very strong, he would have no trouble taking on OGs.


Most are forgetting Paytons words...

"ARE WE AKSING OUR PLAYERS TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST?"

People need to remember 2 things...

1. Martez Wilson was a ILB at Illinois, its what he feels natural doing.

2. His pressure when he was at his best was stunting up the middle, not around the edge! Go back, look at the Eagles game. Wilson is a 34 ILB.

Another thing is that Lofton is stout but short, Wilson would give the unit more length inside with coverage on TE's as well as open the OLB position up for a big time rookie rusher to start to get the best starting unit on the field at one time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whodatworm23 wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
I really think Martez will play ILB. He's good in coverage, super athletic and very very strong, he would have no trouble taking on OGs.


Most are forgetting Paytons words...

"ARE WE AKSING OUR PLAYERS TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST?"

People need to remember 2 things...

1. Martez Wilson was a ILB at Illinois, its what he feels natural doing.

2. His pressure when he was at his best was stunting up the middle, not around the edge! Go back, look at the Eagles game. Wilson is a 34 ILB.

Another thing is that Lofton is stout but short, Wilson would give the unit more length inside with coverage on TE's as well as open the OLB position up for a big time rookie rusher to start to get the best starting unit on the field at one time.


This way we could add a natural pass rusher opposite Galette instead of trying to make Tez learn his 3rd position in as many years.

Galette - Tez- Lofton - Jordan/Okafor/etc.
Hicks - Bunkley - C. Jordan

Looks good to me.
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