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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:31 am    Post subject: Mock Draft... Bored (Alternate added) Reply with quote

1. !!!Trade down!!! with the Cowboys for the 18th pick and their 3rd rounder.

1. Desmond Trufant CB- After the first 4-5 CB there is a drop down of talent. Trufant is a physical corner that can cover with the best of them and in my opinion may be better than Banks.

2a. Datone Jones DE- Have been watching him lately and I am sold. Can rush the passer and play the run well.

2b. Stedman Bailey WR- No need to wait, take the player you want then. Pretty sure everyone knows about him.

3a. Jonathan Franklin RB- Considering Bush leaves. His blocking is great and is quick. Him and Miller would be a good 1-2 punch.

3b. Jordan Reed TE- If Fasano leaves. Imagine Clay but with more YAC. IMO he looks bigger than Clay even though they're both listed at 6'3.

3c. Gerald Hodges OLB- My sleeper at LB. People who follow Penn State always talk about Michael Mauti but never talk about Hodges. Can cover exceptionally well and is a hitter.

4. Brennan Williams OT- Monster at RT. His stock dropped a bit because he got injured, hopefully he can stay under the radar.

5. John Boyett S- Pretty him on him also. Was injured his senior year but had 276 tackles 9 INTs and 20 passes broken up from 2009-2011. Word is that he'll be ready for the combine.

7. Joe Vallano DT- As we always take a DT in the later rounds. He's really not talked about a lot because he "isn't the idea size for a DT", neither is Geno Atkins *shrugs* 219 tackles 31.5 TFL 12 sacks and 5 forced
fumbles since 2010 is unreal for his position. He had 94 total tackles in 2011!

7. Dustin Hopkins K- Out with Carpenter in with Hopkins who'll eventually replace him.

Alternate
Same trade scenario.
1. Jonathan Cooper OG
2a. Datone Jones DE
2b. Stedman Bailey WR
3a. Jordan Reed TE
3b. Gerald Hodges OLB
3c. Leon McFadden CB
4. Ryan Swope WR
5. Braden Brown OT
7a. Joe Vallano DT
7b. Dustin Hopkins K


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone likes the idea of trading down, but it is very unlikely....also who are the Cowboys trading up for?

Datone Jones most likely will not make it out of the first round.

I assume the WR, G, and S are addressed during free agency.

Why take a RB? They are ready have Thomas, Miller, and Thigpen.

Taking Bailey in the 2nd would be too high....most see him going 3rd or slipping to the 4th. Quinton Patton would be much better at this position or if you really like Bailey....use the 3a/3b pick on him.

I like Trufant at 18.....if the Phins can somehow dupe a GM into trading up.

Jordan Reed could be a nice pick up, but I still see him as Clay 2.0
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ViolentMonk71 wrote:
Everyone likes the idea of trading down, but it is very unlikely....also who are the Cowboys trading up for?

Datone Jones most likely will not make it out of the first round.

I assume the WR, G, and S are addressed during free agency.

Why take a RB? They are ready have Thomas, Miller, and Thigpen.

Taking Bailey in the 2nd would be too high....most see him going 3rd or slipping to the 4th. Quinton Patton would be much better at this position or if you really like Bailey....use the 3a/3b pick on him.

I like Trufant at 18.....if the Phins can somehow dupe a GM into trading up.

Jordan Reed could be a nice pick up, but I still see him as Clay 2.0

Don't know who the Cowboys trade up for just heard a lot about them trading up. We'll see about Jones. Adding Greg Jennings, Derek Cox, Jared Cook, and Louis Vasquez in FA, forgot to add that. No need for safety help right now, Clemons had a decent year and that's what Boyett is for. Why take a RB? Well because our top 2 RBs, if Bush leaves, are injury prone and have trouble blocking. Bailey will not last past the 3rd round. Do you honestly think a receiver of Bailey's stature is going to fall to the 4th? Patton would be a decent pick. And I see Reed more as a Aaron Hernandez than Clay.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way we trade down just for trufant when he can be gotten in the 2nd.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaytotha wrote:
No way we trade down just for trufant when he can be gotten in the 2nd.


Basically...the difference between Millner/Banks and Trufant is huge. I'll take one of those and stick with our two thirds.
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I like Datone jones and gerald hodges, he has some Navorro Bowman in him.

I dont see really like franklin in the 3rd round and think stedman bailey can be had in the 3rd although a good prospect.

I would be extremly disapointed if we took Trufant at 18 senior bowl hype is nice but when the dust settles he will be a early 2 guy and there could be 2 franchise left tackles at 12 with Eric Fisher and Lane johnson. I still have it stuck in me when we traded back with SD and Earl thomas and JPP were taking 2 picks after and we ended up with Odrick and Misi.

Jordan reed intrigues me because of the connection of him and aaron hernandez going back to both growing up in conneticut then both going to florida and having a simular skill set and him pattering his game after him and them working out together but I wouldnt feel warm and fuzzy about the pick either but it has possibilitys

To be honest if we were to trade back in round 1 I would be hoping for Either TE Ertz or Eifert or value pick of keenen allen tavon austin type playmakers. All those guys are not worthy at 12 but not making it to 42 either in my Opinion except maybe 1


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ViolentMonk71 wrote:
Why take a RB? They already have Thomas, Miller, and Thigpen.
Because all we have is Thomas, Miller, and Thigpen.

Thomas is close to being a bust right now and Thigpen is a return specialist. Miller looks like the only good RB, and if he does turn out good I don't want us running him into the ground like Wannstooge did with Ricky. We do need another RB IMO, preferably one who is shifty & explosive.
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Jonas Gray is very much in Miami plans next year
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fishfan4life wrote:
I like Datone jones and gerald hodges, he has some Navorro Bowman in him.

I dont see really like franklin in the 3rd round and think stedman bailey can be had in the 3rd although a good prospect.

I would be extremly disapointed if we took Trufant at 18 senior bowl hype is nice but when the dust settles he will be a early 2 guy and there could be 2 franchise left tackles at 12 with Eric Fisher and Lane johnson. I still have it stuck in me when we traded back with SD and Earl thomas and JPP were taking 2 picks after and we ended up with Odrick and Misi.

Jordan reed intrigues me because of the connection of him and aaron hernandez going back to both growing up in conneticut then both going to florida and having a simular skill set and him pattering his game after him and them working out together but I wouldnt feel warm and fuzzy about the pick either but it has possibilitys

To be honest if we were to trade back in round 1 I would be hoping for Either TE Ertz or Eifert or value pick of keenen allen tavon austin type playmakers. All those guys are not worthy at 12 but not making it to 42 either in my Opinion except maybe 1

Well I was pretty high on Trufant before the Senior Bowl and his performance there made me even more intrigued. Eric Fisher is a top 10 pick and Johnson is a late 1st rounder. You know what happened last time we chose a "franchise" LT? 45-49 in the last 5 years. And you contradicted yourself. Earl Thomas and JPP are play makers. Lane Johnson may just keep the QB upright. Sure we need help on the O-Line but that can be addressed later on in the draft and in FA, we need play makers. Bailey might make it to the 3rd but will be taken early in the 3rd which is why I have him being picked in the 2nd. Franklin is Lamar Miller with better blocking and more strength, why not? You'll be surprised how much a TE's stock drops unless a team is severely desperate for a TE like Atlanta are losing Tony Gonzalez. Ertz can be had in the 2nd.
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fishfan4life wrote:
Jonas Gray is very much in Miami plans next year
I've heard this too. Wonder is that also affecting Miami's decision with Bush.
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fishfan4life wrote:
I like Datone jones and gerald hodges, he has some Navorro Bowman in him.

I dont see really like franklin in the 3rd round and think stedman bailey can be had in the 3rd although a good prospect.

I would be extremly disapointed if we took Trufant at 18 senior bowl hype is nice but when the dust settles he will be a early 2 guy and there could be 2 franchise left tackles at 12 with Eric Fisher and Lane johnson. I still have it stuck in me when we traded back with SD and Earl thomas and JPP were taking 2 picks after and we ended up with Odrick and Misi.

Jordan reed intrigues me because of the connection of him and aaron hernandez going back to both growing up in conneticut then both going to florida and having a simular skill set and him pattering his game after him and them working out together but I wouldnt feel warm and fuzzy about the pick either but it has possibilitys

To be honest if we were to trade back in round 1 I would be hoping for Either TE Ertz or Eifert or value pick of keenen allen tavon austin type playmakers. All those guys are not worthy at 12 but not making it to 42 either in my Opinion except maybe 1

Well I was pretty high on Trufant before the Senior Bowl and his performance there made me even more intrigued. Eric Fisher is a top 10 pick and Johnson is a late 1st rounder. You know what happened last time we chose a "franchise" LT? 45-49 in the last 5 years. And you contradicted yourself. Earl Thomas and JPP are play makers. Lane Johnson may just keep the QB upright. Sure we need help on the O-Line but that can be addressed later on in the draft and in FA, we need play makers. Bailey might make it to the 3rd but will be taken early in the 3rd which is why I have him being picked in the 2nd. Franklin is Lamar Miller with better blocking and more strength, why not? You'll be surprised how much a TE's stock drops unless a team is severely desperate for a TE like Atlanta are losing Tony Gonzalez. Ertz can be had in the 2nd.
How did I contradict myself? I would have prefered to stay and draft playmakers like earl thomas and JPP which is why depending who is still there at 12 I would be hesitent. Lane johnson is not a late 1st round pick not happening bud top 20 I will pull this thread back up after draft. He is a elite athlete with great length and feet who can play LT or RT he will not get past rams bears or giants, I have been on his wagon on here for a bit and now just jumped to 11th on mels big board and 11th on cbssportline board. dont forget joe staly and nate soldier are former TE and first round pro bowl tackles. Ertz is up for debate at 42 in my opinion. He is a better prospect then kyle rudolph who dint make i to 42 so it depends on team needs. fisher is a top 10 guy your right but dont forget a couple qb's who are not top 10 will get drafted top 10 happens every year so fisher is a possibility
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fishfan4life wrote:
Phinsfan93 wrote:
fishfan4life wrote:
I like Datone jones and gerald hodges, he has some Navorro Bowman in him.

I dont see really like franklin in the 3rd round and think stedman bailey can be had in the 3rd although a good prospect.

I would be extremly disapointed if we took Trufant at 18 senior bowl hype is nice but when the dust settles he will be a early 2 guy and there could be 2 franchise left tackles at 12 with Eric Fisher and Lane johnson. I still have it stuck in me when we traded back with SD and Earl thomas and JPP were taking 2 picks after and we ended up with Odrick and Misi.

Jordan reed intrigues me because of the connection of him and aaron hernandez going back to both growing up in conneticut then both going to florida and having a simular skill set and him pattering his game after him and them working out together but I wouldnt feel warm and fuzzy about the pick either but it has possibilitys

To be honest if we were to trade back in round 1 I would be hoping for Either TE Ertz or Eifert or value pick of keenen allen tavon austin type playmakers. All those guys are not worthy at 12 but not making it to 42 either in my Opinion except maybe 1

Well I was pretty high on Trufant before the Senior Bowl and his performance there made me even more intrigued. Eric Fisher is a top 10 pick and Johnson is a late 1st rounder. You know what happened last time we chose a "franchise" LT? 45-49 in the last 5 years. And you contradicted yourself. Earl Thomas and JPP are play makers. Lane Johnson may just keep the QB upright. Sure we need help on the O-Line but that can be addressed later on in the draft and in FA, we need play makers. Bailey might make it to the 3rd but will be taken early in the 3rd which is why I have him being picked in the 2nd. Franklin is Lamar Miller with better blocking and more strength, why not? You'll be surprised how much a TE's stock drops unless a team is severely desperate for a TE like Atlanta are losing Tony Gonzalez. Ertz can be had in the 2nd.
How did I contradict myself? I would have prefered to stay and draft playmakers like earl thomas and JPP which is why depending who is still there at 12 I would be hesitent. Lane johnson is not a late 1st round pick not happening bud top 20 I will pull this thread back up after draft. He is a elite athlete with great length and feet who can play LT or RT he will not get past rams bears or giants, I have been on his wagon on here for a bit and now just jumped to 11th on mels big board and 11th on cbssportline board. dont forget joe staly and nate soldier are former TE and first round pro bowl tackles. Ertz is up for debate at 42 in my opinion. He is a better prospect then kyle rudolph who dint make i to 42 so it depends on team needs. fisher is a top 10 guy your right but dont forget a couple qb's who are not top 10 will get drafted top 10 happens every year so fisher is a possibility
An analyst's big board has nothing to do with a GM's. We're going off of need at 12 and OT is second or third in terms of need for the Dolphins. Johnson is a great athlete, never said he wasn't, just said he's a late 1st rounder (18-32).
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Phinsfan93 wrote:
fishfan4life wrote:
Phinsfan93 wrote:
fishfan4life wrote:
I like Datone jones and gerald hodges, he has some Navorro Bowman in him.

I dont see really like franklin in the 3rd round and think stedman bailey can be had in the 3rd although a good prospect.

I would be extremly disapointed if we took Trufant at 18 senior bowl hype is nice but when the dust settles he will be a early 2 guy and there could be 2 franchise left tackles at 12 with Eric Fisher and Lane johnson. I still have it stuck in me when we traded back with SD and Earl thomas and JPP were taking 2 picks after and we ended up with Odrick and Misi.

Jordan reed intrigues me because of the connection of him and aaron hernandez going back to both growing up in conneticut then both going to florida and having a simular skill set and him pattering his game after him and them working out together but I wouldnt feel warm and fuzzy about the pick either but it has possibilitys

To be honest if we were to trade back in round 1 I would be hoping for Either TE Ertz or Eifert or value pick of keenen allen tavon austin type playmakers. All those guys are not worthy at 12 but not making it to 42 either in my Opinion except maybe 1

Well I was pretty high on Trufant before the Senior Bowl and his performance there made me even more intrigued. Eric Fisher is a top 10 pick and Johnson is a late 1st rounder. You know what happened last time we chose a "franchise" LT? 45-49 in the last 5 years. And you contradicted yourself. Earl Thomas and JPP are play makers. Lane Johnson may just keep the QB upright. Sure we need help on the O-Line but that can be addressed later on in the draft and in FA, we need play makers. Bailey might make it to the 3rd but will be taken early in the 3rd which is why I have him being picked in the 2nd. Franklin is Lamar Miller with better blocking and more strength, why not? You'll be surprised how much a TE's stock drops unless a team is severely desperate for a TE like Atlanta are losing Tony Gonzalez. Ertz can be had in the 2nd.
How did I contradict myself? I would have prefered to stay and draft playmakers like earl thomas and JPP which is why depending who is still there at 12 I would be hesitent. Lane johnson is not a late 1st round pick not happening bud top 20 I will pull this thread back up after draft. He is a elite athlete with great length and feet who can play LT or RT he will not get past rams bears or giants, I have been on his wagon on here for a bit and now just jumped to 11th on mels big board and 11th on cbssportline board. dont forget joe staly and nate soldier are former TE and first round pro bowl tackles. Ertz is up for debate at 42 in my opinion. He is a better prospect then kyle rudolph who dint make i to 42 so it depends on team needs. fisher is a top 10 guy your right but dont forget a couple qb's who are not top 10 will get drafted top 10 happens every year so fisher is a possibility
An analyst's big board has nothing to do with a GM's. We're going off of need at 12 and OT is second or third in terms of need for the Dolphins. Johnson is a great athlete, never said he wasn't, just said he's a late 1st rounder (18-32).
How do you know that? free agency has not happened yet if we lose jake long and dont get a tackle in free agency protecting our franchise QB is a major need. More then them are saying that about lane johnson ability and LT dont grow on trees he will be top 20 pick I am very confident in that. Scouts love this guy look at the history of drafts QB,pass rushers and LT come off the board at higher rate then any other position. I also am not saying he needs to be our pick because free agency has yet to take place
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