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Riddler 
Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:38 am Post subject: Riddler's 2013 Patriots mock draft - Version 1 |
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Here it is! I'm not predicting trades as of now.
I provided links to articles pertaining to the players for more info.
1.29 - Desmond Trufant
CB 5'11'' 195lbs
Washington
After his outstanding Senior Bowl week, he has moved up boards and can now be considered the #2 or #3 CB in the draft depending on who you talk too, behind Milliner and possibly Banks. Even if Talib stays, the Pats need CB help. In a league where 3 starting caliber corners are key in a pass heavy league, Trufant paired with Talib and Dennard would be a formidable trio. Now imagine if Talib leaves. CB is a big hole, and I know most of us want DMac staying at FS.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/131373/desmond-trufant
Other logical choices at 1.29:
Xavier Rhodes - CB
Terrance Williams - WR
Justin Hunter - WR
Kawann Short - DT
Matt Elam - SS
2.29 - Marcus Wheaton
WR 6'0'' 198lbs
Oregon St
WR is another major need for NE. More specifically a deep threat to keep the safeties back off the short passing lanes. Wheaton was a track star and even beat blazer D'Anthony Thomas in a track meet race. He could move up considerably in value with a great 40 time at the combine, but he's a second round pick as of now. Being compared to Mike Wallace (without the drops).
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1501721-markus-wheaton-and-top-wideout-making-noise-at-the-senior-bowl
Other choices at 2.29:
Phillip Thomas - SS
Larry Warford - OG
Sylvester Williams - DT
Logan Ryan - CB
David Amerson - CB/S
3.29 - Cornelius "Tank" Carradine
DE 6'5'' 265lbs
Florida St
Would be going higher if not for an ACL tear in November. Had a breakout 2012 across Werner. Bolsters an inconsistent pass rush and could be the future DE across from Jones. 11 sacks in 12 GP this year.
http://floridastate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1453703&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
7.? (From TB) - Denard Robinson
Slot WR/KR 5'11'' 196lbs
Michigan
After a dreadful Senior Bowl week, he has free fallen down draft boards everywhere and may not even be deemed draft worthy. He needs work, but he is a playmaker with the ball in his hands. Could be a steal as a future slot WR/Welker replacement.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89761&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR
7.29 - Braxton Cave
C/G 6'3'' 304lbs
Notre Dame
Cave could go higher with a good combine but is 6-7 round value as of now. Gives the Pats interior line depth which is lacking.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=82205&draftyear=2013&genpos=C
Final thoughts: I'm sure someone will ask why S and DT wasn't addressed. Well I think S will be addresses through FA, and BB spent a high pick on a safety last year in Tavon Wilson. With the signing of DT Armstead, i don't think that is a major need now, and depth might be acquired through FA. Thanks for reading Version 1 of my mock draft! Comments appreciated. _________________ NFL Draft Nut |
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TomRalph 
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 5816 Location: Leeds, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Denard Robinson? Yuck. We've had success transforming Edelman, but just don't think this is viable with all our other needs. _________________
| Jmacz008 (With the 32nd Pick of the 2014 NFL Draft) wrote: | | ...the New England Rutgers select, Rutgers Rutgers, Rutgers from Rutgers |
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Naq 
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 4179 Location: Athens, OH
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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I strongly dislike Denard Robinson _________________
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rabbisson 
Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 28041 Location: #PoWwWwWvidence
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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You should join the FFMD staff. _________________
| Iggles wrote: | | This guy gets it. Seriously, the ideas being espoused here need to get to 88 mph so they can go back to the 1950's. |
Last year Brandon Bolden...this year Zach Sudfeld! |
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TomRalph 
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 5816 Location: Leeds, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| rabbisson wrote: | | You should join the FFMD staff. |
After he's re-sized his avatar of course  _________________
| Jmacz008 (With the 32nd Pick of the 2014 NFL Draft) wrote: | | ...the New England Rutgers select, Rutgers Rutgers, Rutgers from Rutgers |
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Riddler 
Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| TomRalph wrote: | | rabbisson wrote: | | You should join the FFMD staff. |
After he's re-sized his avatar of course  |
fixed haha.
thanks for the feedback, but Denard Robinson is not a terrible pick in round 7, regardless of needs. how often does a 7th rounder come in and fill a need? (Alfonzo Dennard was an anomaly) _________________ NFL Draft Nut |
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24isthelaw
Joined: 15 Nov 2010 Posts: 5178 Location: Where the Patriots are
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Riddler wrote: | fixed haha.
thanks for the feedback, but Denard Robinson is not a terrible pick in round 7, regardless of needs. how often does a 7th rounder come in and fill a need? (Alfonzo Dennard was an anomaly) |
True. The expectations for a 7th rounder are to show up in August, chug some Gatorade, and then go sell insurance. You swing for someone you think is going to merely stick around, regardless of need. _________________
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TomRalph 
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 5816 Location: Leeds, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of people think Mathieu will last till the 7th round, I'd rather take a flier on him than Denard. _________________
| Jmacz008 (With the 32nd Pick of the 2014 NFL Draft) wrote: | | ...the New England Rutgers select, Rutgers Rutgers, Rutgers from Rutgers |
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VTPatsFan 
Joined: 23 Apr 2010 Posts: 1837
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| TomRalph wrote: | | A lot of people think Mathieu will last till the 7th round, I'd rather take a flier on him than Denard. |
Same, I'd rather put my faith into Mathieu than have Cole at CB, or Robinson at any position.
Still, the lack of safety in this draft class is kind of disturbing, considering everyone says this is a deep safety class. Talib - Dennard - Trufant - Dowling - Arrington should be fine for CB, but without someone next to McCourty, the secondary's still going to have problems. _________________
| Tzimisce wrote: | | That throw was Dennarded. |
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Riddler 
Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| TomRalph wrote: | | A lot of people think Mathieu will last till the 7th round, I'd rather take a flier on him than Denard. |
true, but something tells me he goes in the 4-5 range. just a gut feeling. _________________ NFL Draft Nut |
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dhunt2402 
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 16669 Location: The District
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah the hate for Denard Robinson is coming from Ohio State fans so I wouldn't put too much stock in that.
Overall pretty good, love the upside of the later round picks. _________________
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mcmurtry86
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 16190
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Really don't like drafting a CB in the 1st.
If Talib is re-signed, it is likely to a fairly pricey contract. Investing a 1st round pick to be a #3 seems like a waste of valuable and (this year) fairly scarce resources.
Only if Talib leaves does a 1st rounder at CB make sense IMO. |
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tbperk 
Joined: 06 Mar 2009 Posts: 195
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| You put yourself out there Riddler, I like the way your descriptions and how you arrived at the choice along with who you think the alternatives cold be. I like Vaccaro or Elam at the 1 but that's me. |
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Riddler 
Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| tbperk wrote: | | You put yourself out there Riddler, I like the way your descriptions and how you arrived at the choice along with who you think the alternatives cold be. I like Vaccaro or Elam at the 1 but that's me. |
Thanks! Appreciate the comments
I love Vaccaro too but he won't be there at 29. Elam is a very real possibility because of the BB-Florida connection (Meyer recruited Elam) and it fills a need. Elam also brings a nasty streak |
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24isthelaw
Joined: 15 Nov 2010 Posts: 5178 Location: Where the Patriots are
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Personally I don't think any of the safeties in this draft are going to be the best option at #29. None of them are really high end prospects (except Vaccaro, but he needs development and this team needs someone now). There's little separation between the top 5 or 6 guys in my mind, and there's still 10 or 12 guys behind that who are viable NFL options. I really think we should look to free agency to get a vet safety at a discount (Ed Reed or Charles Woodson) and draft one of the deeper options. _________________
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