| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
JTagg7754
Joined: 09 Nov 2010
Posts: 7255
Location: Somewhere in Ohio
|
 Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:47 am Post subject: |
 |
|
|
| Silver&Black88 wrote: |
Word. Chali seems like an eager beaver and he'll have oakdb, Rolni, R4S! and Darth around for some FFMD vet support. |
Yeah I didn't think it'd be tough to find a replacement. I did look and the draft happens on the 27th at 8 AM. So I will be around for the first pick whatever we decide to do w/ it. I can't remember the time windows but I will be officially out of commission at roughly 10 PM EST On the 28th as I have to catch a 6 AM flight the 1st.
So whomever steps up might have to make a pick. I will explain my thoughts to almost everyone by then in an influence is needed involving a potential quarrel in who the pick should be.
_________________
| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: |
you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
oakdb36
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 12763
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
I'd be for making an offer to Sebastian Vollmer in the second tier. I've looked at contracts for the top RTs in the league and they're affordable. If you want to know how much that is, pm me.
_________________
| Plush wrote: | | Papa was a trolling stone |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JTagg7754
Joined: 09 Nov 2010
Posts: 7255
Location: Somewhere in Ohio
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| oakdb36 wrote: | | I'd be for making an offer to Sebastian Vollmer in the second tier. I've looked at contracts for the top RTs in the league and they're affordable. If you want to know how much that is, pm me. |
Absolutely. He could provide bookends for us for quite some time. Let me know of some good ideas to off-balance the cap hit also if you wouldn't mind.
_________________
| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: |
you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
oakdb36
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 12763
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| JTagg7754 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | I'd be for making an offer to Sebastian Vollmer in the second tier. I've looked at contracts for the top RTs in the league and they're affordable. If you want to know how much that is, pm me. |
Absolutely. He could provide bookends for us for quite some time. Let me know of some good ideas to off-balance the cap hit also if you wouldn't mind. |
Well, there's a rule for the contracts with those 4 tiers of FAs. The cap hit can't increase by more than 15% each year. I'll send you a contract proposal in a few.he's in tier 2 though so we can't pursue him just yet. I think we can all agree we'll pass on anyone in tier 1, right?
_________________
| Plush wrote: | | Papa was a trolling stone |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Chali21
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
Posts: 1709
Location: Cali
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| JTagg7754 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | I'd be for making an offer to Sebastian Vollmer in the second tier. I've looked at contracts for the top RTs in the league and they're affordable. If you want to know how much that is, pm me. |
Absolutely. He could provide bookends for us for quite some time. Let me know of some good ideas to off-balance the cap hit also if you wouldn't mind. |
I agree, this team has gone to long without having a competent RT.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baggabonez
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
Posts: 3775
Location: RaiderNation
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Chali21 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | I'd be for making an offer to Sebastian Vollmer in the second tier. I've looked at contracts for the top RTs in the league and they're affordable. If you want to know how much that is, pm me. |
Absolutely. He could provide bookends for us for quite some time. Let me know of some good ideas to off-balance the cap hit also if you wouldn't mind. |
I agree, this team has gone to long without having a competent RT. |
While I agree that RT needs to be addressed my concern is that a major signing like Vollmer will either prevent the Raiders from signing other FAs (ie: Vollmer will be the only acquisition) or cause an unanticipated domino effect of salary cap casualties to fill the roster of worthy starters.
I have mixed feelings as to what Tiered FA is more important RT Vollmer or NT Knighton. If I had to choose between the two I'd rather have Knighton who may be pivotal to run a 34 and resign Barnes (worst case scenario) considering we are returning to a PBS.
Idk but it's worthy of discussion because we don't have much cap space and probably should only target one major FA signing.
_________________
2013 Mancrush: DT Richardson, OT Joeckel, FS Vaccaro, FS Rambo, WR Dobson, RB Michael, TE McDonald, OT Foketi, WR Swope |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DarthDavis
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
Posts: 5207
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Baggabonez wrote: | | Chali21 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | I'd be for making an offer to Sebastian Vollmer in the second tier. I've looked at contracts for the top RTs in the league and they're affordable. If you want to know how much that is, pm me. |
Absolutely. He could provide bookends for us for quite some time. Let me know of some good ideas to off-balance the cap hit also if you wouldn't mind. |
I agree, this team has gone to long without having a competent RT. |
While I agree that RT needs to be addressed my concern is that a major signing like Vollmer will either prevent the Raiders from signing other FAs (ie: Vollmer will be the only acquisition) or cause an unanticipated domino effect of salary cap casualties to fill the roster of worthy starters.
I have mixed feelings as to what Tiered FA is more important RT Vollmer or NT Knighton. If I had to choose between the two I'd rather have Knighton who may be pivotal to run a 34 and resign Barnes (worst case scenario) considering we are returning to a PBS.
Idk but it's worthy of discussion because we don't have much cap space and probably should only target one major FA signing. |
I like your processing on this. I prefer Knighton/Barnes to Vollmer. RT's are not the quality caliber position worth our limited FA abilities. A centerpiece NT to our defense is way more of a priority financially. 3rd and 4th round draft pick RT's start every season. Maybe not day 1 but they sure come around with a bandaid starter. We also have Bergstrom.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baggabonez
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
Posts: 3775
Location: RaiderNation
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
RT Cherilus
RT (deleted)
are both available cheaper than Vollmer I believe. However, we need more options at NT in case Knighton gets out of our price range.
_________________
2013 Mancrush: DT Richardson, OT Joeckel, FS Vaccaro, FS Rambo, WR Dobson, RB Michael, TE McDonald, OT Foketi, WR Swope |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
oakdb36
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 12763
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
As far as i'm concerned, Vollmer is a top RT while Knighton is just a NT.
_________________
| Plush wrote: | | Papa was a trolling stone |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baggabonez
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
Posts: 3775
Location: RaiderNation
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
Absolutely Vollmer is a top OT but what about the rest of the team? Similar to the real Raiders shouldnt we be building evenly? I was hoping to get a few guys as we're short draft picks.
True enough though NT Knighton is just a guy so I can get behind Vollmer easily.
_________________
2013 Mancrush: DT Richardson, OT Joeckel, FS Vaccaro, FS Rambo, WR Dobson, RB Michael, TE McDonald, OT Foketi, WR Swope |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DarthDavis
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
Posts: 5207
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| oakdb36 wrote: | | As far as i'm concerned, Vollmer is a top RT while Knighton is just a NT. |
RT is not as an important position as NT. Especially with the unleashing of a new 3-4. If we really want an OT there will be quality rookies available in the draft, rolling with Barnes as a bandaid wouldn't be as significant as a loss, talent wise, as rolling with what we currently have at NT and given we can't rely on Star being available at our pick.
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
oakdb36
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 12763
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| DarthDavis wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | As far as i'm concerned, Vollmer is a top RT while Knighton is just a NT. |
RT is not as an important position as NT. Especially with the unleashing of a new 3-4. If we really want an OT there will be quality rookies available in the draft, rolling with Barnes as a bandaid wouldn't be as significant as a loss, talent wise, as rolling with what we currently have at NT and given we can't rely on Star being available at our pick. |
We can have 13M to spend on FA. We can get Vollmer and a NT. I want to make an offer to both. I'll send you guys the contract offer for Vollmer.
_________________
| Plush wrote: | | Papa was a trolling stone |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Raiders4sho!
Joined: 21 Jan 2009
Posts: 1566
Location: Sandwich on the aweome sig!
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| oakdb36 wrote: | | DarthDavis wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | As far as i'm concerned, Vollmer is a top RT while Knighton is just a NT. |
RT is not as an important position as NT. Especially with the unleashing of a new 3-4. If we really want an OT there will be quality rookies available in the draft, rolling with Barnes as a bandaid wouldn't be as significant as a loss, talent wise, as rolling with what we currently have at NT and given we can't rely on Star being available at our pick. |
We can have 13M to spend on FA. We can get Vollmer and a NT. I want to make an offer to both. I'll send you guys the contract offer for Vollmer. |
Yes I'd like to see them please
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Silver&Black88
Joined: 24 Feb 2009
Posts: 24698
Location: Rochester, NY
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Raiders4sho! wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | DarthDavis wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | As far as i'm concerned, Vollmer is a top RT while Knighton is just a NT. |
RT is not as an important position as NT. Especially with the unleashing of a new 3-4. If we really want an OT there will be quality rookies available in the draft, rolling with Barnes as a bandaid wouldn't be as significant as a loss, talent wise, as rolling with what we currently have at NT and given we can't rely on Star being available at our pick. |
We can have 13M to spend on FA. We can get Vollmer and a NT. I want to make an offer to both. I'll send you guys the contract offer for Vollmer. |
Yes I'd like to see them please |
Could we put in an offer on David Jones and Larry Grant too please? When it gets to be time, that is. Ideally we'd land one of the 2 at least.
_________________
| husker_vikes3 wrote: | | What do you season your meatballs and sausage with? |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baggabonez
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
Posts: 3775
Location: RaiderNation
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Price check on WR Moore, please?
In addition could we add asking prices to our trading block? Discuss.
_________________
2013 Mancrush: DT Richardson, OT Joeckel, FS Vaccaro, FS Rambo, WR Dobson, RB Michael, TE McDonald, OT Foketi, WR Swope |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
