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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.
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WindyCity wrote:
“I think they have to take an offensive lineman,” Mayock said during the call. “I think they've got to protect their quarterback much better than they have. When Jay Cutler is protected, he's one of the top quarterbacks in football. When he's not protected, you can't win football games. So from my perspective, it's got to start up front. When you're picking, I think they're No. 20, if I remember correctly, when you're picking in round No. 20 and talking about linemen, I think it's a good year to be at No. 20. Because Lane Johnson from Oklahoma could be there. D.J. Fluker from Alabama could be there. Two of the better tackles in the draft. Then when you're talking about the guards, if either Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper were available, you'd have to jump all over them. So I think there are four names right there who make a ton of sense for Chicago.”

@BradBiggs: Plenty of O-line news will come out of Indy this week. NFL Network’s Mike Mayock weighed in on #Bears & the draft. http://t.co/ZeWcr6TJ
Didn't Mayock just draft a TE for the Bears?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.


It’s not exactly rocket science…none of the pro scouts that Zierlein has spoken to think that Jones is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.
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Madmike90 wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.


It’s not exactly rocket science…none of the pro scouts that Zierlein has spoken to think that Jones is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.

I expect Barrett Jones to see a massive slide on Draft Day, I bet he doesn't get drafted until 50-75.
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These are the 10 players NFL scouts predict will create the most buzz at the scouting combine beginning this week:

1. Ziggy Ansah, Brigham Young DE; 2. Terron Armstead, Arkansas Pine Bluff OT; 3. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina G; 4. Jonathan Cyprien, Florida State S; 5. Zaviar Gooden, Missouri OLB; 6. Marquise Goodwin, Texas WR; 7. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma OT; 8. Dion Jordan, Oregon DE; 9. Cordarelle Patterson, Tennessee WR; 10. Geno Smith, West Virginia QB. Analysis in Scout Talk. bit.ly/WQByPz
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pigsooie5 wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.


It’s not exactly rocket science…none of the pro scouts that Zierlein has spoken to think that Jones is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.

I expect Barrett Jones to see a massive slide on Draft Day, I bet he doesn't get drafted until 50-75.
I wouldnt consider that a slide. I've been saying that for a long time.
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pigsooie5 wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.


It’s not exactly rocket science…none of the pro scouts that Zierlein has spoken to think that Jones is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.

I expect Barrett Jones to see a massive slide on Draft Day, I bet he doesn't get drafted until 50-75.

Yeah I don't think it's unrealistic that he goes in the 3rd.
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Apparently Eifert isnt looking great pre combine. I would love to trade up for him if we could get him for our 2nd and 4th ala Paea.
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Apparently Eifert isnt looking great pre combine. I would love to trade up for him if we could get him for our 2nd and 4th ala Paea.


That would be nice or use next years 3rd round pick.

If we got

1[20] OG DJ Fluker [Alabama]
2[50] TE Tyler Eifert [Notre Dame]

I would cry tears of sweet joy.
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DaMike wrote:
Apparently Eifert isnt looking great pre combine. I would love to trade up for him if we could get him for our 2nd and 4th ala Paea.


That would be nice or use next years 3rd round pick.

If we got

1[20] OG DJ Fluker [Alabama]
2[50] TE Tyler Eifert [Notre Dame]

I would cry tears of sweet joy.
I think we would have to trade up but either way it would be great.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madmike90 wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.


It’s not exactly rocket science…none of the pro scouts that Zierlein has spoken to think that Jones is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.
So he talked to a couple of drunks in a bar, whoopdy do.
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Apparently Eifert isnt looking great pre combine. I would love to trade up for him if we could get him for our 2nd and 4th ala Paea.
Or pull a Ditka and give away all our picks. We need MORE picks not fewer especially not for a TE.
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ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.


It’s not exactly rocket science…none of the pro scouts that Zierlein has spoken to think that Jones is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.
So he talked to a couple of drunks in a bar, whoopdy do.
It might be a bit more then that.
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ChicagoAl wrote:
DaMike wrote:
Apparently Eifert isnt looking great pre combine. I would love to trade up for him if we could get him for our 2nd and 4th ala Paea.
Or pull a Ditka and give away all our picks. We need MORE picks not fewer especially not for a TE.
We need good players. I'd give a 2nd and 4th for Eifert 10 times out of 10.
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IronMike84 wrote:
pigsooie5 wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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The Sideline View's Lance Zierlein hasn't met a personnel man with Alabama C Barrett Jones in the first two rounds. Don't really know what this means.

NFL.com's Albert Breer seconded Zierlein's statement. Jones racked up award after award while starting from a variety of spots along the Alabama offensive line. However, his best trait is his intelligence and positional blocking, since Jones rarely overpowers NFL caliber defensive tackles.
Jones in the second round would be a fantastic steal. I wouldn't even blink before taking him.


It’s not exactly rocket science…none of the pro scouts that Zierlein has spoken to think that Jones is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.

I expect Barrett Jones to see a massive slide on Draft Day, I bet he doesn't get drafted until 50-75.

Yeah I don't think it's unrealistic that he goes in the 3rd.
That is weird since I haven't MET a "personnel man" who thinks Jones will be drafted lower than the 1st round. Just ignore the fact that I haven't actually met any personnel men and go with the vague.
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