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WindyCity
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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:17 pm Post subject: Bears Prospects Draft Rankings [Mayock Bears Analysis pg17] |
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With the FFMD and the Senior Bowl/Combine season we need to start organizing our rankings and big boards for prospects the Bears may target.
OT
1. Eric Fisher [Central Michigan] 6'7" 305lbs. 34" arms
2. Luke Joeckel [Texas A&M] 6'6" 310lbs.
3. Lane Johnson [OU] 6'6" 302lbs 35" arms
4. Kyle Long [Oregon] 6'6" 308lbs. 32 1/8" arms
5. Oday Aboushi [Virginia] 6'5" 310lbs. 32 7/8" arms
6. Justin Pugh [Syracuse] 6'5" 300lbs. 31.5' arms
OG
1. Chance Warmack [Alabama] 6'2" 330lbs.
2. D.J Fluker [Alabama] 6'5" 355lbs. 36 3/8" arms
3. Jonathan Cooper [UNC] 6'3" 310lbs.
4. Larry Warford [Kentucky] 6'3" 333lbs. 33" arms
5. Dallas Thomas [Tennessee] 6'5" 308lbs.
6. David Quessenberry [San Jose St] 6'6" 305lbs.
C
1. Jonathan Cooper [UNC] 6'3" 310lbs.
2. Barrett Jones [Alabama] 6'5" 302lbs.
3. Travis Frederick [Wisconsin] 6'4" 338lbs.
4. Brian Schwenke [Cal] 6'3" 308lbs.
5. Graham Pocic [Illinois] 6'5" 308lbs.
6. Khaled Holmes [USC] 6'4" 300lbs.
TE
1. Zach Ertz [Stanford] 6'6" 252lbs.
2. Tyler Eifert [Notre Dame] 6'6" 250lbs.
3. Gavin Escobar [San Diego St] 6'5" 255lbs.
4. Travis Kelce [Cincinnati] 6'6" 265lbs.
5. Jordan Reed [Florida] 6'3" 245lbs.
OLB
1. Khaseem Greene [Rutgers] 6'1" 236lbs.
2. Arthur Brown [Kansas St] 6'1" 233lbs.
3. Zavier Gooden [Missouri] 6'1" 235lbs.
4. Gerald Hodges [Penn St] 6'1" 242lbs.
5. Chase Thomas [Stanford] 6'3" 248lbs.
MLB
1. Kevin Minter [LSU] 6'2" 245lbs.
2. Alec Ogeltree [Georgia] 6'3" 237lbs.
3. Manti Te'o [Notre Dame] 6'2" 255lbs.
4. Jon Bostic [Florida] 6'1" 245lbs.
5. Nico Johnson [Alabama] 6'2" 240lbs.
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Superman(DH23)
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Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper?
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WindyCity
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Fluker has a number of qualities that teams will fall in love with.
Been dominant in the SEC.
Have incredibly unique physical ability.
Versatility to play RT and OG.
Fits what our scheme will look for.
I really like Cooper and think he is a hell of a player, but he is an athletic OG and I think the Bears will be targeting the big boys at OG.
I would be happy if we picked Cooper.
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WindyCity
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1[20]
1. OT Eric Fisher [Central Michigan]
2. OT Luke Joeckel [Texas A&M]
3. OG Chance Warmack [Alabama]
4. OT Lane Johnson [Stanford]
5. OG D.J Fluker [Alabama]
6. OG/C Jonathan Cooper [UNC]
7. LB Kevin Minter [LSU]
8. LB Alec Ogeltree [Georgia]
Trade Down
9. LB Manti Te'o [Notre Dame]
10. TE Zach Ertz [Stanford]
11. LB Khaseem Greene [Rutgers]
12. OG Larry Warford [Kentucky]
13. TE Tyler Eifert [Notre Dame]
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14. C Barrett Jones [Alabama]
15. LB Arthur Brown [Kansas St]
16. OT Kyle Long [Oregon]
17. TE Gavin Escobar [San Diego St]
18. OG Dallas Thomas [Syracuse]
19. OT Oday Aboushi [Virginia]
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Madmike90
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
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DaMike
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
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Madmike90
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| DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
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DaMike
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
Hes done it at a very high level in the SEC. No reason to think he can't do it in the NFL. Especially at OG. You're knit picking. |
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Madmike90
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| DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
Hes done it at a very high level in the SEC. No reason to think he can't do it in the NFL. Especially at OG. You're knit picking. |
To start with he was listed at 335lbs by Bama...not 355lbs...and how many 355lbs OGs are there in the NFL today? |
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DaMike
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
Hes done it at a very high level in the SEC. No reason to think he can't do it in the NFL. Especially at OG. You're knit picking. |
To start with he was listed at 335lbs by Bama...not 355lbs...and how many 355lbs OGs are there in the NFL today? |
They could list him at 150 LBs. list weight means nothing. I've never seen a prospect his size carry the weight so well. It doesn't matter how many there are in the NFL. Fluker is Fluker. |
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Madmike90
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| DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
Hes done it at a very high level in the SEC. No reason to think he can't do it in the NFL. Especially at OG. You're knit picking. |
To start with he was listed at 335lbs by Bama...not 355lbs...and how many 355lbs OGs are there in the NFL today? |
They could list him at 150 LBs. list weight means nothing. I've never seen a prospect his size carry the weight so well. It doesn't matter how many there are in the NFL. Fluker is Fluker. |
Sure it doesn’t. |
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WindyCity
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
Hes done it at a very high level in the SEC. No reason to think he can't do it in the NFL. Especially at OG. You're knit picking. |
To start with he was listed at 335lbs by Bama...not 355lbs...and how many 355lbs OGs are there in the NFL today? |
Regardless of the number, which can be changed by a strength and conditioning coach, Fluker played 70 snaps a game and dominated in the SEC.
There is no way he put on 20lbs since the season so I will assume he played most of the season at 350lbs. Go back and watch the National Championship game and see what he did to Notre Dame at 355.
He is a good player.
There are a ton of 350lbs OLmen in the NFL, thy night now be listed at 350 but they are there. I would be willing to be our own J'Marcus Webb plays this season at 350 and Lance Louis is not far behind him.
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
Hes done it at a very high level in the SEC. No reason to think he can't do it in the NFL. Especially at OG. You're knit picking. |
To start with he was listed at 335lbs by Bama...not 355lbs...and how many 355lbs OGs are there in the NFL today? |
They could list him at 150 LBs. list weight means nothing. I've never seen a prospect his size carry the weight so well. It doesn't matter how many there are in the NFL. Fluker is Fluker. |
Sure it doesn’t. |
Correct. |
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Madmike90
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| DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Besides get measured, what has Fluker done to jump Jonathan Cooper? |
Agreed...I wouldn't move Fluker up at all after the weigh in only...the only OG on the move would be Warford who IMO would jump Fluker & Faulk up to #3...Fluker weighing in at 355lbs isn't a good thing IMO...for me he has to lose 15 – 20lbs. |
its a great thing. He's probably the best looking 350+ lber I've seen. Not all OGs have 6 packs. |
I won’t be a great thing when he is asked to carry that weight for 70 snaps a game. |
Hes done it at a very high level in the SEC. No reason to think he can't do it in the NFL. Especially at OG. You're knit picking. |
To start with he was listed at 335lbs by Bama...not 355lbs...and how many 355lbs OGs are there in the NFL today? |
They could list him at 150 LBs. list weight means nothing. I've never seen a prospect his size carry the weight so well. It doesn't matter how many there are in the NFL. Fluker is Fluker. |
Sure it doesn’t. |
Correct. |
Struggle picking up sarcasm do we? |
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WindyCity
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If I asked you his weight you would not say 355lbs.
We had the same debate last season about Cordy Glenn who had a worse body and all he did was start all season and play well at LT for the Bills.
Having incredible size and athletic ability is not a bad thing.
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