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Tatupu_64
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Thats a crapload of guaranteed money in the back end of that contract
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| Tatupu_64 wrote: | | Thats a crapload of guaranteed money in the back end of that contract |
It's a three-year deal with the first two years guaranteed. Not exactly ideal, but frankly, we were up against a team with a significantly better record and have been burned every time we have made an offer to a TA player by not offering enough guaranteed. It's not like it's a five-year deal, we can get out of it before the third year and only eat $3 million.
We have the youngest defense in football and needed to add a couple veterans. Paid a bit more than I'd like, but he's a player that we needed to add to free up our draft options and we had pretty much already missed out on our top four FA choices.
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Tatupu_64
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| titans0021 wrote: | | Tatupu_64 wrote: | | Thats a crapload of guaranteed money in the back end of that contract |
It's a three-year deal with the first two years guaranteed. Not exactly ideal, but frankly, we were up against a team with a significantly better record and have been burned every time we have made an offer to a TA player by not offering enough guaranteed. It's not like it's a five-year deal, we can get out of it before the third year and only eat $3 million.
We have the youngest defense in football and needed to add a couple veterans. Paid a bit more than I'd like, but he's a player that we needed to add to free up our draft options and we had pretty much already missed out on our top four FA choices. |
I'm not surprised you won. Our deal was set up so we could cut him after a year with only a $500,000 cap hit or after two years with no cap hit.
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titans0021
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Makes sense. Honestly, if we were in your position, our offer likely would've looked similar. We knew it would take more money and more guarantees to get him to choose Tennessee over Seattle, thus the contract offer.
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And we signed Charles Woodson. Likely our final significant signing in FA.
Still, we've taken a young defense that had a clear lack of leadership and added three veterans that are still capable of starting and should immediately be great influences in the locker room.
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Here's what I believe our depth chart currently looks like, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Ruskie:
QB: Jake Locker, Matt Hasselbeck, Rusty Smith
RB: Chris Johnson, Jamie Harper, Darius Reynaud
FB: TBD
WR1: Kenny Britt, Kendall Wright, Marc Mariani
WR2: Nate Washington, Damian Williams
TE: Jared Cook, Craig Stevens, Taylor Thompson
LT: Michael Roos, Byron Stingily
LG: Steve Hutchinson, Mitch Petrus
C: Fernando Velasco
RG: Deuce Lutui, Mitch Petrus
RT: David Stewart, Byron Stingily
DE: Derrick Morgan, Osi Umenyiora (Will essentially get starter's reps), Scott Solomon
DT: Jurrell Casey, Mike Martin, Da'John Harris
DT: Richard Seymour, Karl Klug, Zach Clayton
DE: Kamerion Wimbley, Osi Umenyiora
OLB: Akeem Ayers, Patrick Bailey, Kevin Malast
MLB: Colin McCarthy, Tim Shaw
OLB: Zach Brown, Patrick Bailey
CB: Jason McCourty, Coty Sensabaugh
FS: Michael Griffin, Robert Johnson
SS: Charles Woodson, Robert Johnson
CB: Alterraun Verner, Tommie Campbell
K: Rob Bironas
P: Brett Kern
KR/PR: Darius Reynaud
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| titans0021 wrote: | And we signed Charles Woodson. Likely our final significant signing in FA.
Still, we've taken a young defense that had a clear lack of leadership and added three veterans that are still capable of starting and should immediately be great influences in the locker room. |
Just fyi Woodson is likely going to go to the talent agency.....Desperado has just been a little late on pulling guys for the TA...he just pulled George Wilson whos bid was lower than Woodsons
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| Iceman88 wrote: | | titans0021 wrote: | And we signed Charles Woodson. Likely our final significant signing in FA.
Still, we've taken a young defense that had a clear lack of leadership and added three veterans that are still capable of starting and should immediately be great influences in the locker room. |
Just fyi Woodson is likely going to go to the talent agency.....Desperado has just been a little late on pulling guys for the TA...he just pulled George Wilson whos bid was lower than Woodsons |
Yeah, I kind of figured Woodson would be considered a CB considering that's where he played for 14 of his 15 years.
Whatever though, I'm in no hurry to put together another pitch to be honest. 
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And honestly, I still view Woodson as more of a corner. It's not as though we'd have him playing the traditional safety role, he'd be far more of a rover (similar to Finny in 2011). Oh well, guess we shall see what the ruling is.
However, if he is indeed pulled because he crossed the TA mark, it's going to be slightly disappointing simply because no one that was bidding on him suggested the TA and frankly, he'd been over the S mark for well over 24 hours at the time we claimed him.
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| titans0021 wrote: | | Iceman88 wrote: | | titans0021 wrote: | And we signed Charles Woodson. Likely our final significant signing in FA.
Still, we've taken a young defense that had a clear lack of leadership and added three veterans that are still capable of starting and should immediately be great influences in the locker room. |
Just fyi Woodson is likely going to go to the talent agency.....Desperado has just been a little late on pulling guys for the TA...he just pulled George Wilson whos bid was lower than Woodsons |
Yeah, I kind of figured Woodson would be considered a CB considering that's where he played for 14 of his 15 years.
Whatever though, I'm in no hurry to put together another pitch to be honest. |
Good point well maybe he sneaks by....
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Do you guys have any interest in frostee rucker? Run stopping de....
The browns are looking to mov up in any round and we are willing to add a pick to go along with rucker if need be.
Let me know or PM me for quickest negotiations
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Got a trade offer, will send to the AGMs to see if there might be any interest.
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domonic raiola was just released do we have any interest in adding him?
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Personally, I think Velasco is best at center and that's pretty much the only place Raiola can plan. Wouldn't mind seeing us add another lineman, but I'd prefer it to be a guard. Though that's just one man's opinion.
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So, after the Osi and Woodson signings, we are now down to $6.4 million in cap space.
I posted this a few weeks away ago, think we should really go this route:
| titans0021 wrote: | Tennessee Titans Restructuring Steve Hutchinson
Current 2013 #'s:
4,750,000 salary, 1,500,000 prorated signing bonus, 500,000 roster bonus, 6,750,000 cap hit.
Two years remaining on contract
2013 #'s post-restructure
$940,000 salary, $3,462,500 prorated signing bonus, $500,000 roster bonus, Cap hit: $4,902,500
Cap savings of $1,847,500 |
Would then bring us back up to right around $8.3 million in cap space. With draft picks to be signed, it would leave us free to sign another three free agents for the minimum if we want to add some depth on the OL, LB or elsewhere.
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