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tylerdouglass
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| Harper41 wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Harper41 wrote: | | lol. We might not be able to make a single move in free agency, that 15% rule was pretty stupid honestly. Teams give guys deals that have super low cap hits in year 1 ALL the time. I don't know why that rule was added and everyone in the shark tank gets overpaid, and we need to save our remaining cap space for our rookies. |
So people can't unrealistically backload the contract like Brees and Porter in last years FFMD. |
I mean those were bad, but I believe they should just be judgement calls by the guys running it. This 15% rule essentially took half of the teams in FFMD out of the picture in the big free agent thing. |
Having those rules takes out subjectivity.
Any bit of subjectivity creates places where people can complain and threaten to quit FFMD. It's just easier to make 1 set of rules and make everyone follow them.
If people would quit whining, things could get more realistic. It would be awesome, but won't happen because everyone thinks the FFMD staff is out to ruin their season.
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Harper41
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | Harper41 wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Harper41 wrote: | | lol. We might not be able to make a single move in free agency, that 15% rule was pretty stupid honestly. Teams give guys deals that have super low cap hits in year 1 ALL the time. I don't know why that rule was added and everyone in the shark tank gets overpaid, and we need to save our remaining cap space for our rookies. |
So people can't unrealistically backload the contract like Brees and Porter in last years FFMD. |
I mean those were bad, but I believe they should just be judgement calls by the guys running it. This 15% rule essentially took half of the teams in FFMD out of the picture in the big free agent thing. |
Having those rules takes out subjectivity.
Any bit of subjectivity creates places where people can complain and threaten to quit FFMD. It's just easier to make 1 set of rules and make everyone follow them.
If people would quit whining, things could get more realistic. It would be awesome, but won't happen because everyone thinks the FFMD staff is out to ruin their season. |
Yeah its just lame when we basically had no shot at any of the big free agents, especially when back-loaded contracts are common in the NFL.
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Porter22
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | | The New Orleans Saints offer LS Justin Drescher $555,000 |
New Orleans signs Justin Drescher
Time Stamp: 4:34pm ET
| Porter22 wrote: | | The New Orleans Saints offer: K Nick Folk $715,000 |
New Orleans signs Nick Folk
Time Stamp: 1:00pm ET
Rule of '51 Cap Room $4,165,884 |
| Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | | The New Orleans Saints offer TE David Thomas $840,000 |
The New Orleans Saints claim TE David Thomas
Rule of '51 Cap Hit 3,730,884 |
| Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: |
The New Orleans Saints offer offer LB Jonathan Casillas $965,000 |
The New Orleans Saints claim LB Jonathan Casillas
Time Stamp 5:57pm ET
Rule of '51 Cap Room $3,170,884 |
I like those signings. They give us good depth and after the Strief trade is officiall, we still have enough cap room to sign our rookies! |
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Porter22
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Updated:
Official New Orleans Saints FFMD Depth Chart
Offense (25 Players):
QB - Drew Brees
HB - Pierre Thomas / Mark Ingram / Chris Ivory / Travaris Cadet
FB - Jed Collins
WR - Marques Colston / Lance Moore / Jacoby Ford / Joe Morgan / Nick Toon / Preston Parker / Andy Tanner
TE - Jimmy Graham / David Thomas
LT - Jermon Bushrod / Bryce Harris
LG - Ben Grubbs / Eric Olsen
C - Brian de la Puente
RG - Jahri Evans / Andrew Tiller
RT - Charles Brown / Marcel Jones
Defense (21 Players):
LDE - Cameron Jordan / Tom Johnson
NT - Brodrick Bunkley
RDE - Akiem Hicks / Tyrunn Walker
LOLB - Greg Romeus
LILB - Curtis Lofton / Jonathan Casillas / Jermiah Hunter
RILB - Martez Wilson / Chris Chamberlain
ROLB – Junior Galette
CB - Tramon Williams / Patrick Robinson / Corey White / Johnny Patrick
FS - Malcolm Jenkins / Rafael Bush / Jerico Nelson
SS - Tyvon Branch / Isa-Abdul Quddus
Special Teams (3 Players):
K - Nick Folk
P - Thomas Morstead
LS - Justin Drescher
KR - Jacoby Ford
PR - Jacoby Ford
Practice squad (9 Players):
WR Jarred Fayson / WR Saalim Hakim / OG Ryan Lee / OG Ricky Henry / LB Austin Johnson / LB Braylon Broughton / DB AJ Davis / DB Ryan Steed / DB Dion Turner
Green - Draft pick
Orange- Re-Signed/Tendered/Tagged
Blue - Acquired via Free Agency
Red - Acquired via Trade
Draft picks:
1st (15) -
3rd (90) -
4th (124) -
5th (150) -
6th (183) -
7th (205) - |
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Porter22
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Our needs right now IMO:
1 OLB starter
2 NT
3 DE depth
4 OLB depth
5 CB depth
6 ILB depth |
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tylerdouglass
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Nice signings! 
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CWood21
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Consider this your guys' official warning to your GM and staff. If you're caught bidding solely to raise the contracts and then invalidating your bids, you'll be punished by having to sit out of the Shark Tank for an extended period of time and/or further punishments as deemed fit.
*This is a generic message posted in all War Rooms.*
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Porter22
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok Jonathan Casillas is a Bear and not a Saint... ´´ |
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Harper41
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Porter22 wrote: | | Ok Jonathan Casillas is a Bear and not a Saint... ´´ |
Why?
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Porter22
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: |
The New Orleans Saints offer QB Chase Daniel $850,000 |
The New Orleans Saints claim QB Chase Daniel
Time Stamp: 10:17am EST
Cap hit: $850,000 |
Old rule of '51 cap hit: $5,350,884
New rule of '51 cap hit: $4,905,884 |
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Porter22
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| Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: |
The New Orleans Saints offer QB Chase Daniel $850,000 |
The New Orleans Saints claim QB Chase Daniel
Time Stamp: 10:17am EST
Cap hit: $850,000 |
Old rule of '51 cap hit: $5,350,884
New rule of '51 cap hit: $4,905,884 |
| Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | The New Orleans Saints offer :
DL Shaun Smith $840,000
DL Brian Schaefering $715,000 |
The Saints claim Shaun Smith and Brian Schaefering
Time stamp: 4:34am EST |
Old rule of '51 cap hit: $4,905,884
New rule of '51 cap room: $4,160,884 |
| Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: |
The New Orleans Saints offer LB Erik Walden $815,000 |
The Raiders offer:
LB Erik Walden 865k. |
The New Orleans Saints offer:
LB Erik Walden $915,000
LB Frank Zombo $715,000 |
The New Orleans Saints sign LB Erik Walden & LB Frank Zombo
Time Stamp: 6:26am EST |
Old rule of '51 cap room: $4,160,884
New rule of '51 cap room: $3,400,884 |
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Harper41
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Are we going to have enough money for our draft picks...
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Porter22
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| Yeah our first rounder costs us $2.6 million and all our other draft picks have a cap hit of $600k or less, so due to the rule of '51 cap they cost us under 200k! Should be able to sign all of them, maybe we have to cut one or two! |
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Harper41
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| Porter22 wrote: | | Yeah our first rounder costs us $2.6 million and all our other draft picks have a cap hit of $600k or less, so due to the rule of '51 cap they cost us under 200k! Should be able to sign all of them, maybe we have to cut one or two! |
I wouldn't want to cut any of our rookies. If anything, we should cut some of those PS scrubs that will never touch the field.
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Porter22
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| Harper41 wrote: | | Porter22 wrote: | | Yeah our first rounder costs us $2.6 million and all our other draft picks have a cap hit of $600k or less, so due to the rule of '51 cap they cost us under 200k! Should be able to sign all of them, maybe we have to cut one or two! |
I wouldn't want to cut any of our rookies. If anything, we should cut some of those PS scrubs that will never touch the field. |
Doesn't mean to cut any rookies! No way we would do that! Those PS guys doesn't really matter due to the rule of '51. Pretty sure we could sign all of our draft picks without releasing anyone. Will make an exact calculation as soon as the numbers for all draft picks are out!
Edit: After our first three picks (1st,3rd,4th) we would be $926,884 under the cap. The other three picks (5th,6th,7th) would only cost us the rookie minimum and therefore doesn't matter for the rule of '51 cap room! |
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