FFMD 2013- BENGALS WAR ROOM

johndeere1707 · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 5285

So lets vote on who is gonna get the franchise tag. Smith or Johnson?
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INbengalfan · Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 4673 Location: Richmond, IN

RedGreenShow · Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Posts: 749 Location: Nati

I've said this before on here. I think it's safer to franchise Johnson. All of the sudden he shows up and rallies 10+ sacks in his contract year. Coincidence? Dont think so. Smith on the other hand has already signed a massive deal his rookie season so he should come at less of a risk to bust on us. Plus, Johnson is way more replaceable if we can't sign him next year than Smith is.
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TheVillain112 · Joined: 19 Feb 2010 Posts: 12466

BengalsEra · Joined: 31 Dec 2012 Posts: 350

tag johnson

ochocinco4pres · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:21 pm Post subject:

TheVillain112 · Joined: 19 Feb 2010 Posts: 12466

johndeere1707 · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 5285

Nevermind
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johndeere1707 · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 5285

Free Agent Resigning

Teams will have an opportunity to resign some of their unrestricted free agents before they hit the free agency market. Each team will have the opportunity to resign up one unrestricted free agents. If they fail to resign or chose to abandon a bid, they may move on to trying another free agent. Resigning free agents is treated exactly like other UFRA's, in that the interested team must submit a bid and contract to the player. Bids will be highly considered in the initial resigning process. Any free agent not resigned will be sent to the UFRA pool. Teams may continue to bid on free agents once they have been sent to the talent agency like any other available FA.

Resigning free agents must use the same contract rules as other Free Agents.

Contract Restructuring

Up to two contracts may be restructured by submitting a bid and contract to the Talent Agency for your currently signed player. The bid and contract will play a large part in the potential resigning of a free agent, and it will be at the discretion of the talent agency to decide a resigning. If a restructuring fails, or is abandoned, you may re-use that attempt on a different player until up to two players have signed new contracts.
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FFMD '13- General Rules and Schedule
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ark23 · Joined: 04 Dec 2012 Posts: 1267 Location: Columbus, Ohio

If we can do that I'd say tag Michael Johnson for the 10.8 million and then do our best to resign Andre prior to free agency starting.

What do you think is a reasonable offer for Andre prior to FA starting? Keep in mind if we tagged him he'd be making 9.6 million.

And to clarify we are only allowed to extend one player and restructure two? In those restructures we aren't allowed to extend players contacts I'd assume, correct?

sparky151 · Joined: 07 Feb 2012 Posts: 1283 Location: Columbus, OH

Based on what JD posted it sounds like we can attempt to re-sign both MJ and Andre but with a limit of 1 re-signed. We could tag the other once one is in hand. So who do we start with? I say let's start with Andre since continuity is probably more important on the O-line than the D-line.

The other questions are what are the franchise tag amounts and what are the fair market values of Andre and MJ? Tags are around 9 mil for O-line and 11 mil for DE. I'd guess Andre will get 7-8 mil per year on a 5 year deal in real life. Say something like 37/5 with 12 mil guaranteed. He's not a LT but is a top 5 RT. Since we once paid Stacey Andrews that much, we shouldn't skimp with Andre.

For MJ, it's murkier. The general rule is pass rushers get paid but MJ also benefits a lot from Atkins. I'd be ok with the tag if needed but wouldn't want to pay him an average of 11 mil per year. In this mock we can't extend Atkins or Dunlap but we should still try to save some cap space for them. I wouldn't want to pay MJ more than 8 mil per year for several reasons. There are starting QBs that make less than that. He benefits from Geno. We will have to offer Dunlap something similar though Carlos might be cheaper since he's further from free agency. If we want to keep MJ, Gilberry, and were free to extend Dunlap and Atkins, what would they be worth? I'd say 10 mil for Geno, 8 for MJ and Carlos, and 4 for Wallace. Add in Peko and that's a lot of money in the D-line.

LondonBengal · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject:

johndeere1707 · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 5285

just to let everyone know the Eagles are wondering what our interest is in DE Trent Cole. I told them that until we know what is going on with our own FAs we have limited interest. I have always liked Cole, he is a native guy from my home area of Xenia. But he is 30 years old and im sure the price would be a mid round pick.
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THE DUKE · Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 14277 Location: Centerville, OH