| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
DawgSoldier
Joined: 30 Oct 2007
Posts: 5947
Location: Medina OH
|
 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
|
Still have NOT seen any argument to refute #1passrusher>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #2CB. as applied to #1 overall need.
The FA class of Corners has a better talent level than anyone in the FA Rush Linebacker class that could be considered a #1 passrusher.
The converse is true in the draft class.
_________________
The Dawgpounds new three headed monster!
Adopt a Brown: QB Brandon Weeden
247/433 57% 2820yds 6.5avg 13 TD 15 Int |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Estonianzulu
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 19746
Location: Middle of Nowhere VA
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Dropkick_pride wrote: |
I dont feel great about the Browns signing anyone... but Im holding off to see what happens before I shutting down options
|
I agree
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9440
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| DawgSoldier wrote: | Still have NOT seen any argument to refute #1passrusher>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #2CB. as applied to #1 overall need.
The FA class of Corners has a better talent level than anyone in the FA Rush Linebacker class that could be considered a #1 passrusher.
The converse is true in the draft class. |
Maybe because you can not show any evidence that a OLB is greater than a CB, that cannot be immediately refuted with nearly the exact same logic?
FA class has better talent than any the FA class of 34 OLBs??? Show me the evidence to support that statement.
Opinion is great, but when you spout it like Fact I tend to disagree.
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
candyman93
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
Posts: 34761
Location: Adopt a Brownie 2012: TJ Ward
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
DP I sort of agree that we badly need a #2 CB, but we are screwed if we don't get a stud pass rusher.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dawgpoun8017
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Posts: 9087
Location: Waterloo,NY
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| candyman93 wrote: | | DP I sort of agree that we badly need a #2 CB, but we are screwed if we don't get a stud pass rusher. |
Im not saying dont get one.... please by all means get one, via draft of FA. thats fine with me I just dont want Bademosi or Wade anywhere near our starting defense
_________________
2013 Joe Blackburn HOF Award Recipient
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9440
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | candyman93 wrote: | | DP I sort of agree that we badly need a #2 CB, but we are screwed if we don't get a stud pass rusher. |
Im not saying dont get one.... please by all means get one, via draft of FA. thats fine with me I just dont want Bademosi or Wade anywhere near our starting defense |
DP is right on it. Look at the roster people....
Wade/Skrine/Bademosi is an EPIC bad at CB if that is what the team is forced to play with...
-- especailly combined with the FS situation.
Gocong, JMJ, Robertson, etc. is not great but not EPIC bad at OLB is that is what is forced to happen.
hopefully they fix all the major the holes in FA and draft bpa.
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dawgpoun8017
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Posts: 9087
Location: Waterloo,NY
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
I ma not saying we need to get one over the other by any means, Both need to be addressed. But Bademosi or wade starting at CB could upgrade the factory of sadness into the corporation of sadness....
_________________
2013 Joe Blackburn HOF Award Recipient
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
candyman93
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
Posts: 34761
Location: Adopt a Brownie 2012: TJ Ward
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
If we have to start JMJ or Robertson at OLB we are going to get steam rolled. They are purely ILBs.
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dawgpoun8017
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Posts: 9087
Location: Waterloo,NY
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
How bout this we just come to a common agreement that both positions need to be upgraded..... Agreed?
_________________
2013 Joe Blackburn HOF Award Recipient
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9440
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| candyman93 wrote: | | If we have to start JMJ or Robertson at OLB we are going to get steam rolled. They are purely ILBs. |
Gocong easily has the size, played outside in a 43 for the eagles and the browns, played 34 in Mangini/Ryan 34, and in colege was a pass rushing specialist at DE.
both JMJ and Robertson have played outside before for the Browns, and played inside and outside in college.
Neither are as big as ARI's OLBs, but JMJ is about the same size as Harrison and many other OLBs. Roberson would be strictly passing downs I imagine, not much different than before.
saying they will get steam rolled is a bit silly.
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
candyman93
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
Posts: 34761
Location: Adopt a Brownie 2012: TJ Ward
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
When was JMJ or Robertson used as an outside pass rusher?
James Harrison is one of the freak exceptions. They call him silver back because his strength is ridiculous.
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9440
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| candyman93 wrote: | When was JMJ or Robertson used as an outside pass rusher?
James Harrison is one of the freak exceptions. They call him silver back because his strength is ridiculous. |
When has any OLB only been used as a pass rusher? and I like how you keep skipping Gocong.
Harrison is very strong, but he is not the only 34 OLB listed playing in the 240s.
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ether
Joined: 16 Aug 2011
Posts: 1466
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| OLB is a hole no matter what while #2 CB is only a massive hole if we don't bring Sheldon Brown back. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9440
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Ether wrote: | | OLB is a hole if gocong doesnt play there while #2 CB is a massive hole even if we bring Sheldon Brown back. |
FIFY
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nugpimpen
Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 12089
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Like Candy said, if JMJ or Robertston start at OLB, we are in serious trouble.
_________________
| hornbybrown wrote: | | We also have the highest amount per capita of Jedi in New Zealand. I'm one. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
