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abbs1988
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 Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: Horton tells AZ radio staion Browns will be strictly a 3-4 |
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http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-browns/cleveland-browns-1.270107/defensive-coordinator-ray-horton-tells-arizona-radio-station-browns-will-run-3-4-scheme-1.367814
| Quote: | | “It won’t be a hybrid, not unless we’re playing golf,” said Horton, who served as the Arizona Cardinals’ defensive coordinator the past two seasons. “It’ll be a 3-4. It’ll be the same defense we ran here [in Arizona].” |
The 4-3 is completely gone fellas!
3-4 mock
*Trade down to #9 Jets because they want Glennon. Pick up a 2nd round pick.
*Package 2nd, and 3rd rd picks to move up into the 1st and grab Rhodes around 18.
1st round - Dion Jordan, OLB, 6'7, 245lbs., ORE
1st round - Xavier Rhodes, CB, 6,1, 217lbs., FSU
What do you all think?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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34... Haslam owns the ball.... If you want to play you play by his rules.
Jets spend a 2nd to move up 3 spots....
The browns spend a third to move up 20? spots.... Doesn't make sense.
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abbs1988
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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True, I was more so putting an emphasis that above anything else, we need a top pass rusher and CB... If we don't get one in FA, I could see us making a few power plays to nab a top pair of pas rusher and pass defender... like Jordan/Rhodes ....or Mingo/Banks... u feel me
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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I think FS and CB are the top two needs on defense.... Next OLB or DE depending on player transition... FA is going to be major to show which direction the draft will go.
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| Dropkick_pride wrote: | | I think FS and CB are the top two needs on defense.... Next OLB or DE depending on player transition... FA is going to be major to show which direction the draft will go. |
We should never have gotten rid of Mike Adams. He was a solid player for us who wanted to be here.
If we had him that would give us more time to solve the FS problem.
I have CB as our number one need as Brown is a FA and a year older and I don't see any other number twos on the roster. Just solid 3 and 4 CB's. Then it's OLB/DE depending on how the players make the transition. I would rank FS 3rd not because of any talent there but because I don't rate it as being as important as the other two in a 3-4.
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cattleman78
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:00 am Post subject: |
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I'd put corner and 3/4 o.l.b. tied for first. Than free safety and t.e. tied for third.
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| Happy with this news. Horton has had great success with this scheme and I really think we can get some nice pieces in the draft. The SEC has some nice D players coming out this year. DJ Swearinger in the 3rd/4th would be nice. Jungleboi, TJ, Haden and a good #2 corner through the draft or FA as our secondary would be sweet. |
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elfman55
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| Dropkick_pride wrote: | 34... Haslam owns the ball.... If you want to play you play by his rules.
Jets spend a 2nd to move up 3 spots....
The browns spend a third to move up 20? spots.... Doesn't make sense. |
Sounds about right to me. 1st rd cost more to move up.
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| hornbybrown wrote: | | Dropkick_pride wrote: | | I think FS and CB are the top two needs on defense.... Next OLB or DE depending on player transition... FA is going to be major to show which direction the draft will go. |
We should never have gotten rid of Mike Adams. He was a solid player for us who wanted to be here. If we had him that would give us more time to solve the FS problem.
I have CB as our number one need as Brown is a FA and a year older and I don't see any other number twos on the roster. Just solid 3 and 4 CB's. Then it's OLB/DE depending on how the players make the transition. I would rank FS 3rd not because of any talent there but because I don't rate it as being as important as the other two in a 3-4. |
agree with most everything. Adams might not be a superstar, but his play is far better than the garbage we have on the roster currently at FS.
IMO, FS role is in partnership that of the CBs.. one doesnt work without the other. Plus, News from Arizona has Horton liking to move his SS up into the box (think Steelers), which will put much more pressure on having a solid FS to cover the deep half of the field....
I have DB as the #1 need on the team, #2cb and FS combined, as fixing just one doesnt help... they both must be addressed this offseason.
The next need is TE right now as we are headed into next season with only Cameron and Gronkowski (not the good one) under contract.
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There isn't anyone who can start at the other 34 OLB and not be a disaster.
CB has people that can start there. Brown Bademosi Skrine Wade.
34 OLB is the #1 need
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| DawgSoldier wrote: | There isn't anyone who can start at the other 34 OLB and not be a disaster.
CB has people that can start there. Brown Bademosi Skrine Wade.
34 OLB is the #1 need |
Brown is the only one who could legit start at corner and somewhat not worry, bademosi is a ST guy at best right now drone can play some nickle and wade has shown to be just depth and ST right now
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | There isn't anyone who can start at the other 34 OLB and not be a disaster.
CB has people that can start there. Brown Bademosi Skrine Wade.
34 OLB is the #1 need |
Brown is the only one who could legit start at corner and somewhat not worry, bademosi is a ST guy at best right now drone can play some nickle and wade has shown to be just depth and ST right now |
Agreed on most of the above.
Still a fact that there isn't a guy on the roster to play opposite sheard in the 34.
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| DawgSoldier wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | There isn't anyone who can start at the other 34 OLB and not be a disaster.
CB has people that can start there. Brown Bademosi Skrine Wade.
34 OLB is the #1 need |
Brown is the only one who could legit start at corner and somewhat not worry, bademosi is a ST guy at best right now drone can play some nickle and wade has shown to be just depth and ST right now |
Agreed on most of the above.
Still a fact that there isn't a guy on the roster to play opposite sheard in the 34. |
Yes but the argument can be made there really isn't seine in the roster that can without worry play across haden
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | There isn't anyone who can start at the other 34 OLB and not be a disaster.
CB has people that can start there. Brown Bademosi Skrine Wade.
34 OLB is the #1 need |
Brown is the only one who could legit start at corner and somewhat not worry, bademosi is a ST guy at best right now drone can play some nickle and wade has shown to be just depth and ST right now |
Agreed on most of the above.
Still a fact that there isn't a guy on the roster to play opposite sheard in the 34. |
Yes but the argument can be made there really isn't seine in the roster that can without worry play across haden |
Any of Brown Bademosi or Skrine Wade. @#2CB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anyoneonthe rosteropposite Sheard in the 34.
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| DawgSoldier wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | There isn't anyone who can start at the other 34 OLB and not be a disaster.
CB has people that can start there. Brown Bademosi Skrine Wade.
34 OLB is the #1 need |
Brown is the only one who could legit start at corner and somewhat not worry, bademosi is a ST guy at best right now drone can play some nickle and wade has shown to be just depth and ST right now |
Agreed on most of the above.
Still a fact that there isn't a guy on the roster to play opposite sheard in the 34. |
Yes but the argument can be made there really isn't seine in the roster that can without worry play across haden |
Any of Brown Bademosi or Skrine Wade. @#2CB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anyoneonthe rosteropposite Sheard in the 34. |
The only one of them who showed they should be on the field is brown then skrine in a pinch, neither of the other two showed they belong on the field anywhere but ST.
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