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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.
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Dropkick_pride wrote:
If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.


I agreed with that 100% over the last couple years, and faulted Heckert for not making that move, however now our WRs are no longer Rookies and are producing. What the Browns need most in my opinion is to continue development on the field and to build depth at WR... AND development at the QB position.

Like I said, IF an extra pick could be found then I'd rather draft a WR...
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Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.


I agreed with that 100% over the last couple years, and faulted Heckert for not making that move, however now our WRs are no longer Rookies and are producing. What the Browns need most in my opinion is to continue development on the field and to build depth at WR... AND development at the QB position.

Like I said, IF an extra pick could be found then I'd rather draft a WR...


I still very much think we need a good Vet WR. Really, other than Gordon, I don't feel all to hot about the other guys.

I also want a Vet now more than the last couple years because I think we can actually compete now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.


I agreed with that 100% over the last couple years, and faulted Heckert for not making that move, however now our WRs are no longer Rookies and are producing. What the Browns need most in my opinion is to continue development on the field and to build depth at WR... AND development at the QB position.

Like I said, IF an extra pick could be found then I'd rather draft a WR...


I still very much think we need a good Vet WR. Really, other than Gordon, I don't feel all to hot about the other guys.

I also want a Vet now more than the last couple years because I think we can actually compete now.


I don't think any of them are HOFers... But I think they all will be more productive as they develop over the next couple years and get better QB play... I don't think we can get a FA WR better than what we have starting.... Except maybe slot.

Compete now? For what?
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duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.


I agreed with that 100% over the last couple years, and faulted Heckert for not making that move, however now our WRs are no longer Rookies and are producing. What the Browns need most in my opinion is to continue development on the field and to build depth at WR... AND development at the QB position.

Like I said, IF an extra pick could be found then I'd rather draft a WR...


I still very much think we need a good Vet WR. Really, other than Gordon, I don't feel all to hot about the other guys.

I also want a Vet now more than the last couple years because I think we can actually compete now.


I don't think any of them are HOFers... But I think they all will be more productive as they develop over the next couple years and get better QB play... I don't think we can get a FA WR better than what we have starting.... Except maybe slot.

Compete now? For what?


We can compete in pretty much every game we play.

Are you saying we can't find a better FA WR than Little??
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.


I agreed with that 100% over the last couple years, and faulted Heckert for not making that move, however now our WRs are no longer Rookies and are producing. What the Browns need most in my opinion is to continue development on the field and to build depth at WR... AND development at the QB position.

Like I said, IF an extra pick could be found then I'd rather draft a WR...


I still very much think we need a good Vet WR. Really, other than Gordon, I don't feel all to hot about the other guys.

I also want a Vet now more than the last couple years because I think we can actually compete now.


I don't think any of them are HOFers... But I think they all will be more productive as they develop over the next couple years and get better QB play... I don't think we can get a FA WR better than what we have starting.... Except maybe slot.

Compete now? For what?


We can compete in pretty much every game we play.

Are you saying we can't find a better FA WR than Little??


I think the team is starting to compete in most of its games... That's about it.

I think Little is fine at WR. He led the browns in receiving in 2011. he is young, developing, and has really good potential. Under contract, low salary. No issues of attitude or off field crap to worry about with the browns. No injuries to worry about. Averaging over 10 yards per reception with what 50-60 receptions per year? And thats with Browns QBs throwing to him.... NO fumbles... Only 1 less td catch this year than Gordon... Im not sure what there is to dislike about him?

What better WR FA do you expect the browns to buy?
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duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.


I agreed with that 100% over the last couple years, and faulted Heckert for not making that move, however now our WRs are no longer Rookies and are producing. What the Browns need most in my opinion is to continue development on the field and to build depth at WR... AND development at the QB position.

Like I said, IF an extra pick could be found then I'd rather draft a WR...


I still very much think we need a good Vet WR. Really, other than Gordon, I don't feel all to hot about the other guys.

I also want a Vet now more than the last couple years because I think we can actually compete now.


I don't think any of them are HOFers... But I think they all will be more productive as they develop over the next couple years and get better QB play... I don't think we can get a FA WR better than what we have starting.... Except maybe slot.

Compete now? For what?


We can compete in pretty much every game we play.

Are you saying we can't find a better FA WR than Little??


Not sure we can, considering cost, longevity and continued improvement by Little.

Little's only problem over the last 2/3s of the season was that Weeden didn't throw enough catchable balls in his direction.
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Golden Tate
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Golden Tate


Not a free agent

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/sea
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Not a free agent

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/sea


Dang it. I don't know where I saw it, bit I thought he was. Too bad.
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Dropkick_pride wrote:
bulldog wrote:
Golden Tate


Not a free agent

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/sea


Dang it. I don't know where I saw it, bit I thought he was. Too bad.


Nfltraderrumors.com... Not sure who else as him listed as. FA. I always check with rotoworld these days...
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Little's only problem over the last 2/3s of the season was that Weeden didn't throw enough catchable balls in his direction.


Naw, Little's problem is he doesn't win games and loses them instead by not getting open enough.

Who cares if he's a good run blocker? How many games did his run blocking win for us?

How many games did Little win us? none...he's awful, only winning games makes a player good.

We need a WR that can win games, not lose them.

He also needs to have an agent we all like and be a player that I picked to be good too, or he will automatically be bad.
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duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
If the browns could find an extra draft pick I'd rather get a WR in the draft than FA.

Everyone being all hot and bothered by Jennings seems a bit silly to me.


Probably cause we would like a proven Vet to come in and play at a high level right away, rather than draft a guy who might be good in 3 years.


I agreed with that 100% over the last couple years, and faulted Heckert for not making that move, however now our WRs are no longer Rookies and are producing. What the Browns need most in my opinion is to continue development on the field and to build depth at WR... AND development at the QB position.

Like I said, IF an extra pick could be found then I'd rather draft a WR...


I still very much think we need a good Vet WR. Really, other than Gordon, I don't feel all to hot about the other guys.

I also want a Vet now more than the last couple years because I think we can actually compete now.


I don't think any of them are HOFers... But I think they all will be more productive as they develop over the next couple years and get better QB play... I don't think we can get a FA WR better than what we have starting.... Except maybe slot.

Compete now? For what?


We can compete in pretty much every game we play.

Are you saying we can't find a better FA WR than Little??


I would very much like to get a FA WR to play the outside opposite Gordon and have Little play inside more.
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Honestly I feel like we just need a #4, with Gordon as a #1, Little working inside and Benjamin on the outside (Who will be our 2nd best WR, mark it down) i don't feel like we need to spend big money or draft pick on one. However, if someone like Cordarrelle Patterson falls to us and it's a guy with good value at that pick, I wouldn't be mad.
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Entropy wrote:
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Little's only problem over the last 2/3s of the season was that Weeden didn't throw enough catchable balls in his direction.


Naw, Little's problem is he doesn't win games and loses them instead by not getting open enough.

Who cares if he's a good run blocker? How many games did his run blocking win for us?

How many games did Little win us? none...he's awful, only winning games makes a player good.

We need a WR that can win games, not lose them.

He also needs to have an agent we all like and be a player that I picked to be good too, or he will automatically be bad.


He was open plenty when Weeden missed him by a country mile.

And a lot of the catches he made on badly thrown balls made Weeden's stats look good.
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