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blankman0021
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 Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:54 am Post subject: Defensive Coordinator-- What's Going On? |
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Cheesy article- http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/problem-with-dom-capers
Has anybody heard anything recent about Capers' contract situation. Last I heard his contract expired. Not sure if I'm making this up, but with the New Orleans defense switching to a 3-4 alignment, it would seem awful convenient for them to snipe our coordinator who is not under contract.
This whole situation seems a little odd right now. We either let his contract expire without a contingency plan in place, or failed to announce an extension.
It is a very odd situation that is playing out in GB, typically we are very fast to extend our own. Especially when we're winning.
If we don't figure out something soon, I wouldn't be shocked to hear that he has been brought on as the Saints D-Coordinator. (purely speculation)
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| Let's hope they snipe him. We need a new D-coordinator with some bite. Dom's over-the-hill and vanilla. We need a guy who can be creative, but stones-to-the-wall. I think Kevin Greene can be that guy. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| NCPackFan wrote: | | Let's hope they snipe him. We need a new D-coordinator with some bite. Dom's over-the-hill and vanilla. We need a guy who can be creative, but stones-to-the-wall. I think Kevin Greene can be that guy. |
The problem is execution, not scheme. I have even less faith in Greene being ready to be a DC than I have in Capers. IMO if they were going to change DCs, it would need to be someone not on the current staff. I don't think anyone on the current Packers staff is DC material, although Greene might eventually get there.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| spilltray wrote: | | NCPackFan wrote: | | Let's hope they snipe him. We need a new D-coordinator with some bite. Dom's over-the-hill and vanilla. We need a guy who can be creative, but stones-to-the-wall. I think Kevin Greene can be that guy. |
The problem is execution, not scheme. I have even less faith in Greene being ready to be a DC than I have in Capers. IMO if they were going to change DCs, it would need to be someone not on the current staff. I don't think anyone on the current Packers staff is DC material, although Greene might eventually get there. |
I don't think Greene is close to being a coordinator.
Perry would be next in line IMO. Moss is a candidate as well too I'd imagine. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| incognito_man wrote: | | spilltray wrote: | | NCPackFan wrote: | | Let's hope they snipe him. We need a new D-coordinator with some bite. Dom's over-the-hill and vanilla. We need a guy who can be creative, but stones-to-the-wall. I think Kevin Greene can be that guy. |
The problem is execution, not scheme. I have even less faith in Greene being ready to be a DC than I have in Capers. IMO if they were going to change DCs, it would need to be someone not on the current staff. I don't think anyone on the current Packers staff is DC material, although Greene might eventually get there. |
I don't think Greene is close to being a coordinator.
Perry would be next in line IMO. Moss is a candidate as well too I'd imagine. |
I don't disagree. I just think it's likely either would be a significant downgrade from Capers.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| Let Capers go and give me Lovie Smith. |
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spilltray
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| persiandud wrote: | | Let Capers go and give me Lovie Smith. |
While I like Lovie as a coach, I don't want to see this defense switch to a 4-3 and even less to a Tampa-2.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| persiandud wrote: | | Let Capers go and give me Lovie Smith. |
Not to mention Lovie stated he didn't want a coord job, he'd rather take a year off (still getting paid by CHI mind you) and wait next year for a coaching position. I know people say one thing and do another, but Lovie seems like he's a trustworthy type of guy.
(I would love him as our D coord, Idc what defense we play, as long as it works)
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| persiandud wrote: | | Let Capers go and give me Lovie Smith. |
Absolutely not. Tampa 2 4-3? That is the polar opposite of what our personnel is designed for.
I doubt Greene will ever be a DC or even a legitimate candidate to be a DC. He seems very positionally specific and probably spends his career as a position coach.
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| I don't think it's uncommon for assistant coaches and coordinators to have their contracts expire. I'm guessing Capers and the rest of the defensive staff are all on the same time frame in regards to contracts as well. They have probably already been given assurances that they will be retained. The staff is at the pro bowl this week, so business will probably be taken care of next week when it comes to handing out new deals. |
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| nfldraftguru1 wrote: | | persiandud wrote: | | Let Capers go and give me Lovie Smith. |
Absolutely not. Tampa 2 4-3? That is the polar opposite of what our personnel is designed for.
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Its really not. When you look at our team, who is a true fit for the 34? Clay? We know we lack DL length. I could definitely see us running a scheme like Seattle's 43. Clemons=Clay. Then they have 3 NT/UT types on the line. Pickett/Raji/Worthy. Bring in Neal and Perry in pass situations. Were not crazy invested in the 34.
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I'm getting sick of Dom getting the scheme isn't the problem card. If the players repeatedly can't pull it off then switch it up. I've noticed our defense looks all world against average qbs but when facing good ones they always have career days. We need a guy with flexibility. Hell, I honestly can't remember the last time the defense looked food against a scrambling QB. In today's NFL that's a huge problem.
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| Packerfaninmn wrote: | | I'm getting sick of Dom getting the scheme isn't the problem card. If the players repeatedly can't pull it off then switch it up. I've noticed our defense looks all world against average qbs but when facing good ones they always have career days. We need a guy with flexibility. Hell, I honestly can't remember the last time the defense looked food against a scrambling QB. In today's NFL that's a huge problem. |
Ya...switch it up, because guys that are learning one thing slowly truly need to change gears and start learning something else. That can only help.....right??!! 
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| I Am Rodgers wrote: | | nfldraftguru1 wrote: | | persiandud wrote: | | Let Capers go and give me Lovie Smith. |
Absolutely not. Tampa 2 4-3? That is the polar opposite of what our personnel is designed for.
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Its really not. When you look at our team, who is a true fit for the 34? Clay? We know we lack DL length. I could definitely see us running a scheme like Seattle's 43. Clemons=Clay. Then they have 3 NT/UT types on the line. Pickett/Raji/Worthy. Bring in Neal and Perry in pass situations. Were not crazy invested in the 34. |
A Tampa 2 4-3 would be an awful fit though.
Matthews-best as an attacker, not a Tampa 2 SLB.
Bishop-thumper inside, would not be a guy to play the seam.
Raji-a space eater, doesn't fit the Tommie Harris/Henry Melton prototype for Tampa 2 DT.
We only have one DE that fits the scheme, Perry.
Shields and Tramon are both much better in man coverage.
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| duxrule wrote: | | Packerfaninmn wrote: | | I'm getting sick of Dom getting the scheme isn't the problem card. If the players repeatedly can't pull it off then switch it up. I've noticed our defense looks all world against average qbs but when facing good ones they always have career days. We need a guy with flexibility. Hell, I honestly can't remember the last time the defense looked food against a scrambling QB. In today's NFL that's a huge problem. |
Ya...switch it up, because guys that are learning one thing slowly truly need to change gears and start learning something else. That can only help.....right??!! |
How many years should we wait for it to click? 5? 10? This "scheme" has been mediocre at best the last few years.
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