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Lombardi in charge of FA a "Good Idea?" Maybe
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StewieRules wrote:
Interesting read. The preponderance of written material suggests Lombardi is more or less a moron - and there always seems to be some question of how much input he had, despite his years of GM title for several teams.

Personally, I'm not holding my breath. His comments on the draft this year alone prior to season told me everything; the guy memorizes height/weight/40 times with the best of em, but he does not see how such measurements translate to on field NFL level talent. His years of drafts prove that.

On a side note - WHAT is the obsession with Schwartz as a FA guard?? Its been on EVERY mock of Dawgs for months -the guys not even a starter. Just curious ~

He will be most likely available, He is better than what the Browns have, and He wouldn't mind coming here to play with his brother.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditchdigger wrote:
I can almost guarantee we will sign one or more of the following:

Michael Adams
Rashad Johnson
James Sanders
Greg Toler

Ray Horton will help us attract some much-needed veteran secondary depth.

By the way, Lombardi is Vice President of Player Personnel. Not just Pro Personnel. He will have an equally amount of say in the draft. Jimmy Haslam called him the General Manager, and despite the title, that's pretty much what he is except he answers the the CEO Banner.

I'll give him some credit for the Oakland team, but his draft record is still atrocious. That is why the bottom fell out in 2003. The team was propped up with aging vets in key spots like Romanowski (36), Sam Adams (29/was not resigned after SB37), Jerry Rice (40), Tim Brown (36), and Rich Gannon (37).

Here's the drafts over that same time period, where Lombardi was "Senior Personnel Executive working closely with the owner on all football matters. Liaison with head coach and owner; responsible for pro and college player evaluations; and handled veteran contracts".

    1 4 Charles Woodson DB Michigan
    1 23 (from Tampa Bay) Mo Collins OT Florida
    1 31 * Leon Bender DT Washington State
    3 63 Jon Ritchie FB Stanford
    4 109 (from Washington) Gennaro Dinapoli OG Virginia Tech
    5 127 Jeremy Brigham TE Washington
    5 152 (from Green Bay) Travian Smith LB Oklahoma
    6 156 Scott McGarrahan DB New Mexico
    7 230 * Vince Amey DT Arizona State
    7 235 * David Sanders DE Arkansas

    1 18 Matt Stinchcomb OT Georgia
    2 40 Tony Bryant DE Florida St.
    4 102 Dameane Douglas WR California
    5 146 Eric Barton ILB Maryland
    5 153 Roderick Coleman DE East Carolina
    6 188 Darren Yancey DT Brigham Young
    7 224 Jo Juan Armour OLB Miami (OH)

    1 17 Sebastian Janikowski PK Florida St.
    2 47 Jerry Porter WR West Virginia
    4 107 Junior Ioane DT Arizona St.
    5 142 Shane Lechler P Texas A&M
    7 227 Mondriel Fulcher TE Miami (FL)
    7 231 Clifton Black CB SW Texas St.

    1 28 Derrick Gibson S Florida St.
    2 59 Marques Tuiasosopo QB Washington
    3 89 DeLawrence Grant DE Oregon St.
    5 158 Raymond Perryman S Northern Arizona
    6 184 Chris Cooper DE Nebraska-Omaha
    7 228 Derek Combs HB Ohio St.
    7 229 Ken-Yon Rambo WR Ohio St.

    1 17 Phillip Buchanon CB Miami (FL)
    1 23 Napoleon Harris OLB Northwestern
    2 53 Langston Walker OT California
    2 55 Doug Jolley TE Brigham Young
    5 147 Kenyon Coleman DE UCLA
    6 189 Keyon Nash S Albany St.
    6 197 Larry Ned HB San Diego St.
    7 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina

No wonder the team fell off in 2003.

Our only hope is that Joe Banner knows football better than Al Davis.

Color me skeptical of the man's ability to handle the position that's been nepotistically bestowed upon him. I do trust him to draft special teams players, but little else.

He gets credit sometimes for the Eagles' good 1998 draft (Tra Thomas/Jeremiah Trotter), but he was Director of Pro Personnel there, as the title of this thread incorrectly applied to his current position for the Browns'. His signings there helped take a 6 win team to 3 wins. Jeff Lurie summarily fired him.

Lombardi sure likes DBs in the first round. If thats the case I would expect Dee Milliner to see consideration at 6. Although his tackling ability is meh.
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