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chamilitary 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| i hope he goes to the eagles so they won't take donatell from the niners. |
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anteros77
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The guy was a bad/average at best defensive coordinator before the bountygate scandal. |
And you based that on what? Saints defense? A defense that just set the record of yards given up in an entire season?
I don't see him getting work this season. I just checked Wikipedia... He's only 54 He can get back in the game in a few years. | Saints defense while he was DC wasn't very good, other than 2009 getting turnovers. |
It wasn't great...but it did improve dramatically under Williams and regress dramatically when he left and Spags came in. |
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simonwayne 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| anteros77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The guy was a bad/average at best defensive coordinator before the bountygate scandal. |
And you based that on what? Saints defense? A defense that just set the record of yards given up in an entire season?
I don't see him getting work this season. I just checked Wikipedia... He's only 54 He can get back in the game in a few years. | Saints defense while he was DC wasn't very good, other than 2009 getting turnovers. |
It wasn't great...but it did improve dramatically under Williams and regress dramatically when he left and Spags came in. |
Weren't they also without Vilma and a few others for most of the season? _________________
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tylerdouglass 
 Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 14168 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| anteros77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The guy was a bad/average at best defensive coordinator before the bountygate scandal. |
And you based that on what? Saints defense? A defense that just set the record of yards given up in an entire season?
I don't see him getting work this season. I just checked Wikipedia... He's only 54 He can get back in the game in a few years. | Saints defense while he was DC wasn't very good, other than 2009 getting turnovers. |
It wasn't great...but it did improve dramatically under Williams and regress dramatically when he left and Spags came in. |
Williams was an average at best DC. Every Saints fan wanted him gone, and he was fired after losing that 49ers game.
The defense regressed when Spags came, but that doesn't automatically make Williams a good DC. The guy only knows how to blitz, and when it's not working he has zero ability to make any adjustments. _________________
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tylerdouglass 
 Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 14168 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| simonwayne wrote: | | anteros77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The guy was a bad/average at best defensive coordinator before the bountygate scandal. |
And you based that on what? Saints defense? A defense that just set the record of yards given up in an entire season?
I don't see him getting work this season. I just checked Wikipedia... He's only 54 He can get back in the game in a few years. | Saints defense while he was DC wasn't very good, other than 2009 getting turnovers. |
It wasn't great...but it did improve dramatically under Williams and regress dramatically when he left and Spags came in. |
Weren't they also without Vilma and a few others for most of the season? |
Entirely new LB corps, new defensive scheme, missing 2 of our defensive captains, and our defensive QB in Vilma. Not to mention our #1 WLB was out the entire season, as well as most of our CB depth.
Somehow all of this info makes Williams a good DC. _________________
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Harper41 
Joined: 29 Aug 2009 Posts: 11744
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | anteros77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The guy was a bad/average at best defensive coordinator before the bountygate scandal. |
And you based that on what? Saints defense? A defense that just set the record of yards given up in an entire season?
I don't see him getting work this season. I just checked Wikipedia... He's only 54 He can get back in the game in a few years. | Saints defense while he was DC wasn't very good, other than 2009 getting turnovers. |
It wasn't great...but it did improve dramatically under Williams and regress dramatically when he left and Spags came in. |
Williams was an average at best DC. Every Saints fan wanted him gone, and he was fired after losing that 49ers game.
The defense regressed when Spags came, but that doesn't automatically make Williams a good DC. The guy only knows how to blitz, and when it's not working he has zero ability to make any adjustments. |
Eh. We all wanted him gone but I think we were all wrong. He had zero talent and he still managed to put together an average defense, he can turn a good defense into an elite one. _________________
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Jaguarfan 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mco65 wrote: | | According to the Saints players and fans, there was NO BOUNTY Gate, so why shouldn't Williams simply be allowed to come back and coach somewhere??? Every one is now clean shaven.. why should be pick on Williams? |
Huh? There was a bounty gate. It's common knowledge. _________________
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Harper41 wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | anteros77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The guy was a bad/average at best defensive coordinator before the bountygate scandal. |
And you based that on what? Saints defense? A defense that just set the record of yards given up in an entire season?
I don't see him getting work this season. I just checked Wikipedia... He's only 54 He can get back in the game in a few years. | Saints defense while he was DC wasn't very good, other than 2009 getting turnovers. |
It wasn't great...but it did improve dramatically under Williams and regress dramatically when he left and Spags came in. |
Williams was an average at best DC. Every Saints fan wanted him gone, and he was fired after losing that 49ers game.
The defense regressed when Spags came, but that doesn't automatically make Williams a good DC. The guy only knows how to blitz, and when it's not working he has zero ability to make any adjustments. |
Eh. We all wanted him gone but I think we were all wrong. He had zero talent and he still managed to put together an average defense, he can turn a good defense into an elite one. |
The Saints have talent. They need a coach who can get the most out of that talent.
Spags and Williams haven't been able to do that. _________________
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JaguarCrazy2832 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Bet he has a bounty out on coaches so he can get a job _________________
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RuskieTitan 
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 34104 Location: Front lines of Titania
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Highly doubt he gets a job this year, but wouldn't surprise me if he gets hired next year. _________________
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| RuskieTitan wrote: | | Highly doubt he gets a job this year, but wouldn't surprise me if he gets hired next year. |
I could see him getting a 1/2 year "prove it" contract this season if a DC is fired halfway through the season. _________________
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JMG 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | TheKillerNacho wrote: | | Interesting, I was thinking he may be barred from the NFL for good. Given the fact he's been an outstanding defensive coordinator, I'm thinking someone will give him a call if not this year then next... despite his level of involvement in Bountygate. | He really needs to go to college, the UFL, or the CFL for a year first and get a job removed from bountygate. Until then, I can't think any owner wants to bring that in house. | I agree.
He should try to get a DC job at a good school right now and work his way up to a college HC. Heck, if he starts winning or bringing the program success, you know NFL owners would be calling him up for a job. The NFL is going crazy for colleges coaches nowadays. _________________
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