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rpmwr19
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Jones is a homeless man's Von Miller.
Miller far outclasses him. I think the earliest Jones goes is to the Saints at 15 since they are building a 34.
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Purple Faithful
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| this providence wrote: | I'd bet my mortgage payment on the Vikings going with a WR on one of their first round picks. Feel that confident in them being that predictable.
As far as Allen and Hunter in general, I really hope neither are on this team. Never understood the intrigue. |
yeah, agree with a lot of that. Agree Spielman is that predictable, just hoping it is my dislike that is coloring that thought. You are not helping my fear. Hunter - yeah. Drops, knee injury, slower now, less explosive - knee can't be good - no nfl trainer there in tennessee it looks like. Glad i am not alone on the no hunter/allen bandwagon.
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Purple Faithful
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| rpmwr19 wrote: | Jones is a homeless man's Von Miller.
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haha, that's great!
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AQuintus
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| In other news, Ogletree probably helped himself a little. A 4.63 40 still isn't the super freak speed that I was expecting, but it's better than a 4.70. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| disaacs wrote: | | I still see them using one of the Rd 1 picks on a WR, because they still need more in the way of outside guys. But, then again, it all depends upon what's available at those spots. The likeliest scenarios are that they go 2 out of the following 3: WR, DT, and LB. |
Sounds like you are right. Looking at the draft and the depth, i think i'd like 3tech, safety or LB rd 1, depending on who's there, then in rd 2 lb like minter, maybe, (tape looks like rd 1 reach to me) or wr. also wr rd 3 as a possible. Too many elite safeties and we seen how one elite helped the defense out. The corners are not very good in this draft, imo. (so we cut winfield instead of kwill. unbelievable.)
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| AQuintus wrote: | | In other news, Ogletree probably helped himself a little. A 4.63 40 still isn't the super freak speed that I was expecting, but it's better than a 4.70. |
Watching the alabama tape on him, he doesn't look like much. not sure i still like him.
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PurpleMugen
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| this providence wrote: | | I'd bet my mortgage payment on the Vikings going with a WR on one of their first round picks. Feel that confident in them being that predictable. |
I don't know. There are no Golden Domers/Razorbacks to target that high.
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Klomp
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| PurpleMugen wrote: | | this providence wrote: | | I'd bet my mortgage payment on the Vikings going with a WR on one of their first round picks. Feel that confident in them being that predictable. |
I don't know. There are no Golden Domers/Razorbacks to target that high. |
Sure about that?
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AQuintus
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| Klomp wrote: |
Sure about that? |
So now you want to take Te'o to play WR? |
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Klomp
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| AQuintus wrote: | | Klomp wrote: |
Sure about that? |
So now you want to take Te'o to play WR? |
He never said anything about WR. I thought those were separate statements.
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Worm Guts
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| Klomp wrote: | | AQuintus wrote: | | Klomp wrote: |
Sure about that? |
So now you want to take Te'o to play WR? |
He never said anything about WR. I thought those were separate statements. |
He quoted a post specifically referencing WRs
It was obvious what he meant. Anyway there is a receiver available from one of Spielman's favorite schools, say hello to Robert Woods. |
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biggsohnasty
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It blows my mind how people can not like Ogletree because of his lack of run stopping ability. The dude had over 100 tackles in like 9 games.
On top of that, people will watch the Alabama film and say he struggled (which may be true, though I'd argue it), to which I ask: how many NFL teams run 2 TEs, a FB, and a 235 lb HB? the answer is 1...us.
The new fad in the NFL is the zone read option game...based on spacing and deception. Ogletree is built perfectly to stop that kind of game. This isnt the 90s...Lorenzo Neal doesnt exist in the league anymore, teams don't run 2 TEs and iso teams into oblivion.
The only reservation people should have about him is the off the field garbage. |
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Klomp
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| Worm Guts wrote: | | It was obvious what he meant. Anyway there is a receiver available from one of Spielman's favorite schools, say hello to Robert Woods. |
Like I said, I thought they were separate unrelated statements. My bad...
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PurpleMugen
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| Worm Guts wrote: | | Klomp wrote: | | AQuintus wrote: | | Klomp wrote: |
Sure about that? |
So now you want to take Te'o to play WR? |
He never said anything about WR. I thought those were separate statements. |
He quoted a post specifically referencing WRs
It was obvious what he meant. Anyway there is a receiver available from one of Spielman's favorite schools, say hello to Robert Woods. |
+1 for reading comprehension. Forgot about Spielman's USC fetish, though. I would not be the least bit surprised to see Woods drafted by us, then.
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Kellerman
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| biggsohnasty wrote: | It blows my mind how people can not like Ogletree because of his lack of run stopping ability. The dude had over 100 tackles in like 9 games.
On top of that, people will watch the Alabama film and say he struggled (which may be true, though I'd argue it), to which I ask: how many NFL teams run 2 TEs, a FB, and a 235 lb HB? the answer is 1...us.
The new fad in the NFL is the zone read option game...based on spacing and deception. Ogletree is built perfectly to stop that kind of game. This isnt the 90s...Lorenzo Neal doesnt exist in the league anymore, teams don't run 2 TEs and iso teams into oblivion.
The only reservation people should have about him is the off the field garbage. |
I watched two Georgia games, the tackles he makes are 4-5 yards down the field 'jump on the pile' types of tackles.
PS: I'm not saying Ogletree is a bad player, or that we shouldn't pick him, but run-stopping appears to be his weakest trait.
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