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Freakout


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not be surprised if they had their eye on DT Brandon Williams and he is likely to go in the 3rd round or later. High character kid, has a family, small school, and is a pretty good fit for what we need at NT.
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thestonedkoala wrote:
What are the reaction about Jon Bostic in the middle round?


My reaction is that MLB is currently the team's biggest need (with the Jennings signing and letting Brinkley go), and waiting for the middle rounds to address it would be a big mistake.

Freakout wrote:
I would not be surprised if they had their eye on DT Brandon Williams and he is likely to go in the 3rd round or later. High character kid, has a family, small school, and is a pretty good fit for what we need at NT.


He's my favorite NT prospect (relative to his expected draft position).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do like Brandon Williams and Akeem Spence as potential mid round DT prospects to target.

As for Bostic, he has excellent athleticism with a fantastic 40 and, 3 cone and 20 yr shuttle time. I think those tests give an indication that Bostic has the athleticism to play for the Vikes.

Though everything I have read is that he seems to be a better fit for a down hill scheme. He may have the desired athletic traits, but if he cant play in space, he wont be a good fit. He isnt a bad round 3 option, I would just prefer to have this need taken care of earlier. Whoever is drafted at MLB will essentially have to start opening day.
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I think Te'o is one of the most over analyzed prospects and I wouldn't hesitate to take him with the 23rd pick. I think he gets dogged too much because of the here and now.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thestonedkoala wrote:
I think Te'o is one of the most over analyzed prospects and I wouldn't hesitate to take him with the 23rd pick. I think he gets dogged too much because of the here and now.


I think he was just exposed for a lot of the same reasons why prospects like James Laurinaitis, DeMeco Ryans and Paul Pozluszny fell. These guys simply didnt have desirable athletic traits, therefore, fall to round two. Te'o is in the same boat, great college LB, but simply lacks the ideal skill set to be a first rd pick.
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vikingsrule wrote:
thestonedkoala wrote:
I think Te'o is one of the most over analyzed prospects and I wouldn't hesitate to take him with the 23rd pick. I think he gets dogged too much because of the here and now.


I think he was just exposed for a lot of the same reasons why prospects like James Laurinaitis, DeMeco Ryans and Paul Pozluszny fell. These guys simply didnt have desirable athletic traits, therefore, fall to round two. Te'o is in the same boat, great college LB, but simply lacks the ideal skill set to be a first rd pick.


And yet they are very good NFL players
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klomp wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
thestonedkoala wrote:
I think Te'o is one of the most over analyzed prospects and I wouldn't hesitate to take him with the 23rd pick. I think he gets dogged too much because of the here and now.


I think he was just exposed for a lot of the same reasons why prospects like James Laurinaitis, DeMeco Ryans and Paul Pozluszny fell. These guys simply didnt have desirable athletic traits, therefore, fall to round two. Te'o is in the same boat, great college LB, but simply lacks the ideal skill set to be a first rd pick.


And yet they are very good NFL players


Indeed they are but none of them were surrounded at any point in their careers with something as bombastically bizarre and off-putting as the imaginary girlfriend hoax whatever-you-want-to-call-it. It is one of the monkey wrenches in the equation.
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PurpleMugen wrote:
Klomp wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
thestonedkoala wrote:
I think Te'o is one of the most over analyzed prospects and I wouldn't hesitate to take him with the 23rd pick. I think he gets dogged too much because of the here and now.


I think he was just exposed for a lot of the same reasons why prospects like James Laurinaitis, DeMeco Ryans and Paul Pozluszny fell. These guys simply didnt have desirable athletic traits, therefore, fall to round two. Te'o is in the same boat, great college LB, but simply lacks the ideal skill set to be a first rd pick.


And yet they are very good NFL players


Indeed they are but none of them were surrounded at any point in their careers with something as bombastically bizarre and off-putting as the imaginary girlfriend hoax whatever-you-want-to-call-it. It is one of the monkey wrenches in the equation.


What does that have to do with on field production though? Get a guy like Te'o in an organization like the Vikings, which is forcing more character guys and he'll be fine.
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Klomp wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
thestonedkoala wrote:
I think Te'o is one of the most over analyzed prospects and I wouldn't hesitate to take him with the 23rd pick. I think he gets dogged too much because of the here and now.


I think he was just exposed for a lot of the same reasons why prospects like James Laurinaitis, DeMeco Ryans and Paul Pozluszny fell. These guys simply didnt have desirable athletic traits, therefore, fall to round two. Te'o is in the same boat, great college LB, but simply lacks the ideal skill set to be a first rd pick.


And yet they are very good NFL players


Thats not the point.

The point being made is where they were drafted.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
Thats not the point.

The point being made is where they were drafted.


Everyone thought we drafted Harrison Smith too high last year. Anyone saying that today? I highly doubt it.
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But it's not that Te'o isn't a good linebacker. He just isn't the linebacker we need, especially with guys like Sio Moore and Arthur Brown possibly available who would fill that need. We play in the pass heaviest division in the league. We need a linebacker who excels in the pass game and can get to the flat quickly. That is not Manti Teo.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, we're running off between Arthur Brown and Keenan Allen to decide the pick. Thoughts very welcome - thanks for taking part!

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15940472#15940472

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klomp wrote:
Everyone thought we drafted Harrison Smith too high last year.


I don't know anyone who said that. Everyone suspected that New England was going to draft him at 31.
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vikingsrule wrote:
^ it goes both ways. You can also get caught up in the hype of a players ability and perception from college as well.


When you can find a player that can balance everything out, those are the kind of guys you take.

There is no real "liability" then.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What seperates Keenan Allen from Justin Hunter or DeAndre Hopkins?
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