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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: Should he stay or should he go: Aqib Talib Reply with quote

Aqib Talib is a free agent. Obviously the Patriots defense vastly improved when he arrived.

Nevertheless, he has had multiple off the field issues. The price will likely not be cheap either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retain him on a 1 year deal if possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We gotta keep him
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldenboyGB wrote:
We gotta keep him


YUP! Look at the before and after effect people. Not just on the season but last night. We continually say he "has" off field issues...he didnt in the what 8 games here. We can;t hold that over his head. As long as it doesn't kill us financially and he doesn't have the whole league as suitors there is no reason we don't bring him in on a 1 year "thank you" deal and then possibly have the following year be a Patriots option. But he drastically improved the secondary and helped with the McCourty transition. If we don't keep him than that is just another glaring hole to fill.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt he realistically will accept a one year contract. He is 26, and will likely be looking for a multiple year contract, since this is his first big payday.

He is not on the level of Nnamdi Asomugha. He is a good CB, and there will likely be other suitors.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nextsuperstar wrote:

He is not on the level of Nnamdi Asomugha.
That's a good thing, though. Nnamdi has completely crapped the bed in Philly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tzimisce wrote:
nextsuperstar wrote:

He is not on the level of Nnamdi Asomugha.
That's a good thing, though. Nnamdi has completely crapped the bed in Philly.


Definitley has...even his last season in OAK was subpar for his history of being "shut down". I would give Tlib his pay day before Wes but that's prolly just me. I love Wes for everything but with the change of times/schemes and our ability or hopeful ability to replace an elite WR over a CB that changed the image of our D like Talib is worse. To me its easier to replace Wes via draft with the depth at pass catchers we have over finding a guy like Talib with all our troubles i nthe secondary in past years.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 year deal with some good money should be his goal. No team will likely offer more than that. I would tag him and hope to come to an agreement if not. He's a beast.

Totally changed our secondary and did nothing but work his butt off. I want to see him in a patriots uniform for years. What he does schematically for the pats is huge.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldenboyGB wrote:
3 year deal with some good money should be his goal. No team will likely offer more than that. I would tag him and hope to come to an agreement if not. He's a beast.

Totally changed our secondary and did nothing but work his butt off. I want to see him in a patriots uniform for years. What he does schematically for the pats is huge.


Definitley agree. I have two questions after that post.

1)Are there other Pats players who are considered "tag options" this year? Wes?

2) Do you all think Talib would feel disrespected with a franchise tag? I know he is looking for his first real pay day but if we respect him enough to do our due dilligence in keeping him for the year in hopes of keeping him in that Pats jersey long term as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vollmer is a tag option
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anybody gets tagged. They're not giving Talib $10.7M, Vollmer $9.7M, or Welker $11.4M.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciz wrote:
I don't think anybody gets tagged. They're not giving Talib $10.7M, Vollmer $9.7M, or Welker $11.4M.


Yeah, those are steep prices for a one-year deal. As for the free agents, I'd order them as follows according to priority.

1. Talib
2. Welker
3. Vollmer

Pretty confident we can replace Vollmer. Not so confident we can replace Welker. No chance that we can replace Talib.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24isthelaw wrote:
No chance that we can replace Talib.
Not with someone on the team, but there are other ways that can have a #1 CB without signing Talib. The CB free agent market is pretty stacked. If Talib doesn't work out, then Keenan Lewis from Pitt makes a lot of sense. The Steelers are in cap hell enough without worrying about re-signing him. Sean Smith from Miami could make sense too. Brent Grimes, DRC, and Derek Cox are a few other options.
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24isthelaw wrote:
Sciz wrote:
I don't think anybody gets tagged. They're not giving Talib $10.7M, Vollmer $9.7M, or Welker $11.4M.


Yeah, those are steep prices for a one-year deal. As for the free agents, I'd order them as follows according to priority.

1. Talib
2. Welker
3. Vollmer

Pretty confident we can replace Vollmer. Not so confident we can replace Welker. No chance that we can replace Talib.


Yeah, pretty much this. Whoever we put in at right tackle, Scar will have them ready to go.
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I don't know that Talib is a must-sign but they absolutely have to add a veteran starting quality CB.
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