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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only article I can find is from 09 and it just sounds like Warner felt he gripped the ball better with gloves. Again though, he played without them in St. Louis and obviously had a ton of success. Not sure if hands length had anything to do with it but you never know I guess.

Now that I think about it, is there actually any correlation between quarterback performance and hand length?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably is some weak correlation there champ

If you did a study on it, you could probably end up being Dr Champ.

that has a ring to it
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Probably is some weak correlation there champ

If you did a study on it, you could probably end up being Dr Champ.

that has a ring to it


LOL, Dr. House would have nothing on me right?

I'm actually intriguied as to whether the hands thing does in fact matter or not. I'm not sure I've seen anything that says it definitely does. A lot people made a big deal about with Max Hall I remember, which is why I noted that Wilson's hands are actually smaller than Hall's but I can't remember if there was a legit concern with that or not. I mean, it's not like small hands were the only reason Hall didn't pan out...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easier to dunk a basketball if you can palm it, fact.

Easier to throw a ball if you have more hand contact on it ???
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Easier to dunk a basketball if you can palm it, fact.

Easier to throw a ball if you have more hand contact on it ???


You would think so ya but is there definitive proof that a guy with hands under 10 from the thumb to the index struggle in this league because of that?

EDIT:

Sorry, that's supposed to say thumb to the pinky.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only link I can find...EBAY????? Embarassed

http://reviews.ebay.com/SI-NFL-Talent-Evaluators-10-Essentials-For-An-NFL-QB?ugid=10000000000913454

Says 9 1/2" minimum. I've never heard anything like that before, but it might make some sense. I threw javelin and have 10" hands...my longer fingers allowed me to get greater spin on the javelin compared to other throwers, at least according to my coach. I could see the same argument for throwing a FB and faster rotation yields speed/distance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! EJ Manuel has 35" arms?!? How did I miss that? Shocked
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Telling ya, in shorts he is the perfect speciemen.
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DJ_Fka wrote:
Telling ya, in shorts he is the perfect speciemen.


He seems like he has genuinely good character as well from what I've read and the interviews I've watched.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21604965/senior-bowl-tyler-wilson-leads-qbs-after-three-days

CBS rankings of QB performances at Senior Bowl
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Not a glowing rep on any of them

Missed passes, under throws, wow

Makes me think i have a chance at an NFL career
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We interviewed okafor and fisher yesterday
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stchamp98 wrote:
The only article I can find is from 09 and it just sounds like Warner felt he gripped the ball better with gloves. Again though, he played without them in St. Louis and obviously had a ton of success. Not sure if hands length had anything to do with it but you never know I guess.

Now that I think about it, is there actually any correlation between quarterback performance and hand length?
He suffered multiple injuries to his thumb and couldn't grip the football anymore, that's why he had issues at the end in the STL, and NY. He got the gloves in AZ and was able to grip the ball again.
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Rob Rang dropped Dysert from 77 to 142 in the rankings
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Rob Rang dropped Dysert from 77 to 142 in the rankings


That is a complete overreaction.

He did not show up well at the senior bowl and it worries me based on the level of comptition issue. I still really like his skillset and one week of practice should not be enough to drop a guy 70 spots in rankings. Make your judgements on film, tweak them with All-Star games and combine performances.

Still like Dysert, just not as confident as I was in his ability (level of compeition, footwork/mechanics issues) and not as confident in his draft range. Would still take him at 38 if he got to that point in the draft.
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