| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Fullback40
Joined: 30 Dec 2012
Posts: 311
|
 Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:31 pm Post subject: Star Lotulelei 3-4 Beast |
 |
|
|
Lotulelei could play NT or either DE spot in the 3-4. Do we look at this guy with our #6/minor trade down selection?
The guy is a Haloti Ngata clone but may be a better athlete. Is he even on the Browns radar, given he would for my money, be the BPA on defense in terms of a 3-4 player?
Sure, we have a million DT's, but Lotulelei is a perfect fit for the 3-4, whereas we would be plugging in guys and hoping they fit currently.
Lotulelei is a monster and would make teams kill themselves in the film room as they gameplan to go up against a front of
DE: Taylor/Rucker
NT: Rubin/Winn/Hughes
DE: Lotulelei/Rucker
I know we need pass rush linebackers more, and I would probably advocate going rush LB at #6-#12 range, but is Lotulelei a guy who we would consider going after?
You can't tell me he isn't a better player than Dion Jordan or Barkevious Mingo or Jarvis Jones, but I do understand positional value of a 3-4 DE is not as high as a 3-4 OLB.
Thoughts? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
LETSGOBROWNIES
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
Posts: 6846
Location: CINCINNATI
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
IMO he's a damned good prospect, especially for the 3-4. We don't have a pressing need at that position, but I'm not going to pass on Ngata for a Kamerion Wimbley....again (that is, if the FO deems him a Ngata clone).
There are far worse moves this FO can make than taking a really good DE.
Taylor-Rubin-Star would be be the best 3 man line in the NFL, probably from day 1.
_________________
First Ballot Cleveland Browns Forum Hall of Fame Inductee. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
poorbytehshore
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 1400
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
If Star grades out higher than any of the passrushers available at our pick, we should take him. Haloti Ngata twice a year is enough of a reminder.
That D-line would be filthy. Can Sheard play OLB in a 34? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LETSGOBROWNIES
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
Posts: 6846
Location: CINCINNATI
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| poorbytehshore wrote: | If Star grades out higher than any of the passrushers available at our pick, we should take him. Haloti Ngata twice a year is enough of a reminder.
That D-line would be filthy. Can Sheard play OLB in a 34? |
Don't see any reason why not. He's not going to be Joey Porter or James Harrison right away, but I think he would be solid against the run and provide a decent pass rush.
IIRC, he was one of the higher rated 3-4 OLB prospects in his draft class. I'd be lying if I said I was paying much attention then as we were running an even front.
_________________
First Ballot Cleveland Browns Forum Hall of Fame Inductee. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Fullback40
Joined: 30 Dec 2012
Posts: 311
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| poorbytehshore wrote: | If Star grades out higher than any of the passrushers available at our pick, we should take him. Haloti Ngata twice a year is enough of a reminder.
That D-line would be filthy. Can Sheard play OLB in a 34? |
I think Sheard could transition to that DE/OLB type, but he's not versatile enough to be the #1 Hybrid Rusher that we need.
We would probably have to move Gocong inside with D'Qwell and have JMJ be the primary ILB backup...and there aren't any guys on this roster that have the ability to play that Rush LB that currently play DE (Rucker-Stephens-Davis).
If we went Star in the 1st, we should look at Connor Barwin in FA as our other pass rush LB. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
poorbytehshore
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 1400
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| I'm warming more and more to the idea of Lotulelei has our pick. That line would be a real AFC North D-line and would set the tone for the back end of the defense. Add a solid #2 corner in FA and it's looking very good. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bulldog
Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Posts: 4383
Location: Salem
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9442
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Star Lotulelei 3-4 Beast |
|
|
|
DE: Taylor/Hughes
NT: Rubin/Kitchen
DE: Lotulelei/Winn
Thats one mean 34 DL.
The biggest issue for me is our DBs, but if we can fill those holes in FA than I would love get Star.
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
poorbytehshore
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 1400
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| bulldog wrote: | Star on 2013
Clowney in 2014
Done. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44nP7ClxM
Remember watching this live. After a terrible call by the refs, the momentum swings Michigans way... then that happens on the very next play.
As far as Star, realistically what are the chances of him making it to 6?
KC - Geno
Jacksonville - DE?
Raiders - Could he go here? Maybe they look towards Jarvis Jones if his health checks out
Eagles - They drafted Cox last year so no DT you'd think
Lions - Suh and Fairley, no way they look at Star |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9442
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| poorbytehshore wrote: | | bulldog wrote: | Star on 2013
Clowney in 2014
Done. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44nP7ClxM
Remember watching this live. After a terrible call by the refs, the momentum swings Michigans way... then that happens on the very next play.
As far as Star, realistically what are the chances of him making it to 6?
KC - Geno
Jacksonville - DE?
Raiders - Could he go here? Maybe they look towards Jarvis Jones if his health checks out
Eagles - They drafted Cox last year so no DT you'd think
Lions - Suh and Fairley, no way they look at Star |
yup, OAK or JAC... or maybe browns?
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bulldog
Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Posts: 4383
Location: Salem
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| poorbytehshore wrote: | | bulldog wrote: | Star on 2013
Clowney in 2014
Done. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44nP7ClxM
Remember watching this live. After a terrible call by the refs, the momentum swings Michigans way... then that happens on the very next play.
As far as Star, realistically what are the chances of him making it to 6?
KC - Geno
Jacksonville - DE?
Raiders - Could he go here? Maybe they look towards Jarvis Jones if his health checks out
Eagles - They drafted Cox last year so no DT you'd think
Lions - Suh and Fairley, no way they look at Star |
If he makes it past OAK, he will be there at 6.
_________________
2013 First Ballot Recipient of the Joe Blackburn Award |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
freakygeniuskid
Joined: 04 Feb 2007
Posts: 3710
Location: Hermitage, PA
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Star is basically a Ngata clone, think that's a great comparison.
Because of that, no way he makes it out of the top 4 picks unless some crazy hijinx go down (like two QBs getting picked or someone rolling the dice on Mingo/Jordan).
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dropkick_pride
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 9442
Location: C-bus
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| bulldog wrote: | | poorbytehshore wrote: | | bulldog wrote: | Star on 2013
Clowney in 2014
Done. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44nP7ClxM
Remember watching this live. After a terrible call by the refs, the momentum swings Michigans way... then that happens on the very next play.
As far as Star, realistically what are the chances of him making it to 6?
KC - Geno
Jacksonville - DE?
Raiders - Could he go here? Maybe they look towards Jarvis Jones if his health checks out
Eagles - They drafted Cox last year so no DT you'd think
Lions - Suh and Fairley, no way they look at Star |
If he makes it past OAK, he will be there at 6. |
and OAK could go DT, DE, CB, .... QB, or anything in between. no idea which direction they go right now.
_________________
| Thomas5737 wrote: | | EZ's acceptance of farting on nuns does not necessarily reflect the views of this sub forum. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bruceb
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
Posts: 5328
Location: Rocky River, OH
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | IMO he's a damned good prospect, especially for the 3-4. We don't have a pressing need at that position, but I'm not going to pass on Ngata for a Kamerion Wimbley....again (that is, if the FO deems him a Ngata clone).
There are far worse moves this FO can make than taking a really good DE.
Taylor-Rubin-Star would be be the best 3 man line in the NFL, probably from day 1. |
If he somehow (doubt it) is available to us at #6, we take him in a heartbeat.
BPA at the point
_________________
Everything happens exactly the way it is supposed to happen...otherwise, it would happen some other way |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
buno67
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Posts: 24086
Location: Chubs for Chud
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
i say OLB is to much of a need to pass up of another DL.
I would say yes if he was that much better than the OLBs but he really isnt. There is still a lot of time for him to maybe create that separation from the LBs but I actually see the LBs surpassing him with combine and workouts
_________________
XBL:buno67
PSN:mcolabuno |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
