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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Kyle Wilson was the guy that Ryan and Mangini wanted to take over Haden


I thought it was Earl Thomas?

Could be wrong.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Kyle Wilson was the guy that Ryan and Mangini wanted to take over Haden


I thought it was Earl Thomas?

Could be wrong.


Wilson. Remember Rob Ryans comments about when they drafted Wilson? He said that his brother told him that the Browns coaching staff wanted the guy they took in the first round.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roger murdock wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Kyle Wilson was the guy that Ryan and Mangini wanted to take over Haden


I thought it was Earl Thomas?

Could be wrong.


Wilson. Remember Rob Ryans comments about when they drafted Wilson? He said that his brother told him that the Browns coaching staff wanted the guy they took in the first round.



Turned out well for the Browns. The Jets were also cheesing about the Sanchize trade... LOL
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roger murdock wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Kyle Wilson was the guy that Ryan and Mangini wanted to take over Haden


I thought it was Earl Thomas?

Could be wrong.


Wilson. Remember Rob Ryans comments about when they drafted Wilson? He said that his brother told him that the Browns coaching staff wanted the guy they took in the first round.


Yep. Good call.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd give a 7th round pick for Kyle Wilson. A 6th at most.

But if Asante Samuel went for a 7th, Kyle Wilson shouldn't go for any more than that.
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MarkPrice25 wrote:
I'd give a 7th round pick for Kyle Wilson. A 6th at most.

But if Asante Samuel went for a 7th, Kyle Wilson shouldn't go for any more than that.


Samuel went that late b/c of his remaining terms of his contract. He was owed a ton of money.
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If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.


I was thinking the same thing... good player and a good personal story too... but I cant imagine the Ravens would let him leave. Confused
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candyman93 wrote:
If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.


I was thinking the same thing... good player and a good personal story too... but I cant imagine the Ravens would let him leave. Confused


How are they gonna afford him with Flaccos contract situation?

They also have Upshaw and Suggs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.


I was thinking the same thing... good player and a good personal story too... but I cant imagine the Ravens would let him leave. Confused


How are they gonna afford him with Flaccos contract situation?

They also have Upshaw and Suggs.


not sure... I havent looked at their cap info.

With Ray off the books saves the team 5-6 mil per year, Reed was over 7 million this year and he wont be back either.

looking through Ravens contracts and they have alot of expiring this year...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.


I was thinking the same thing... good player and a good personal story too... but I cant imagine the Ravens would let him leave. Confused


How are they gonna afford him with Flaccos contract situation?

They also have Upshaw and Suggs.


not sure... I havent looked at their cap info.

With Ray off the books saves the team 5-6 mil per year, Reed was over 7 million this year and he wont be back either.

looking through Ravens contracts and they have alot of expiring this year...


Flacco's agent wants him to get top 5 money, so even if they can't come to an agreement and he gets the exclusive franchise tag, they are still looking at 16-17 mil to keep him.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Productiondawg wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.


I was thinking the same thing... good player and a good personal story too... but I cant imagine the Ravens would let him leave. Confused


How are they gonna afford him with Flaccos contract situation?

They also have Upshaw and Suggs.


not sure... I havent looked at their cap info.

With Ray off the books saves the team 5-6 mil per year, Reed was over 7 million this year and he wont be back either.

looking through Ravens contracts and they have alot of expiring this year...


Flacco's agent wants him to get top 5 money, so even if they can't come to an agreement and he gets the exclusive franchise tag, they are still looking at 16-17 mil to keep him.


Below are the Ravens FA list... bolder players are starters... underlined are #2 guys...

QB Joe Flacco
RB Bobby Rainey
RB Damien Berry
RB Anthony Allen
WR David Reed
TE Ed Dickson
TE Dennis Pitta
TE Billy Bajema
LT Bryant McKinnie
C Morgan Cox
OT Ramon Harewood

DL Maake Kemoeatu
DL Arthur Jones
DL Bryan Hall
DL Ryan McBean
LB Dannell Ellerbe
LB Paul Kruger
LB Albert McClellan
LB Josh Bynes
LB Adrian Hamilton
LB Ricky Brown
DB Cary Williams
DB Ed Reed
DB James Ihedigbo
DB Sean Considine
DB Anthony Levine
DB Chris Johnson
DB Emanuel Cook
DB Omar Brown


ouch...

plus you have Ray Lewis retiring and mostly likely Ed Reed... and their starting Center Matt Birk will be 37 and so will their back up guard Williams too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.

First off i love the horton signing. We have built a very good staff to help chud as a first time head coach. Since it seems we're switching to the 3-4 (or atleast some sort of hybrid look) one of the first names that popped to my mind was kruger. Flacco is going to get paid this offseason so he might hit fa. We've got plenty of money to spend and i wouldn't mind throwing some cash his way.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Kyle Wilson was the guy that Ryan and Mangini wanted to take over Haden


I thought it was Earl Thomas?

Could be wrong.


Mangini wanted Kyle Wilson bad.

There was talk of Earl Thomas too I remember.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
If Horton likes big OLBs we should seriously consider Paul Kruger. I'd love to get him and Keenan Lewis.


His brother is in the draft this year. Joe Kruger out of out Utah. 6'7 280. Anyone know anything about him? Could he be a 34 DE? Imagine taking him in the middle of the draft and signing Paul and Keenan Lewis in FA. Trade down and take Dion Jordan whilst picking up a 2nd.

Who am I kidding? I can't look past Star at the moment!
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