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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyponGrey wrote:
justo wrote:
Dubyajay wrote:
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17 Faulk, Chris T Louisiana State
19 Ford, Michael RB Louisiana State
38 Logan, Bennie DT Louisiana State
40 Mathieu, Tyrann DB Louisiana State
42 Mingo, Barkevious DE Louisiana State
43 Minter, Kevin LB Louisiana State
44 Montgomery, Sam DE Louisiana State
52 Reid, Eric DB Louisiana State
60 Simon, Tharold DB Louisiana State
65 Ware, Spencer RB Louisiana State
70 Wing, Brad P Louisiana State
Shocked
The Exodus is here.


My goodness, what is going on at that school?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wish Ball and Vaccarro accepted their Senior Bowl bids.


Don't blame Ball for not going. Guy has a ton of film on him and a ton of mileage on those legs already. He's had a tough year, starting out with getting jumped on,resulting in a concussion. So why risk injury at this point?

He's probably preparing for the Combine, where if he pulls better numbers than some think in drills, could maybe improve his draft stock.


moving on.....every year weird things happen in the draft and good players fall from where projected. The Pack have benefited from this with players like Bulaga.

As strange and as unlikely it is to happen, 2 possibles at this point as LBer Olgetree (would love to see Bears draft Te'o and allow him to drop to us) and WR Keenan Allen.

I really love Ogletree, dude is physical and fast.


I thought I heard he has off the field issues tho...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pugger wrote:
HyponGrey wrote:
justo wrote:
Dubyajay wrote:
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17 Faulk, Chris T Louisiana State
19 Ford, Michael RB Louisiana State
38 Logan, Bennie DT Louisiana State
40 Mathieu, Tyrann DB Louisiana State
42 Mingo, Barkevious DE Louisiana State
43 Minter, Kevin LB Louisiana State
44 Montgomery, Sam DE Louisiana State
52 Reid, Eric DB Louisiana State
60 Simon, Tharold DB Louisiana State
65 Ware, Spencer RB Louisiana State
70 Wing, Brad P Louisiana State
Shocked
The Exodus is here.


My goodness, what is going on at that school?


I am not surprised and no one else should be, those players did not go to school to go to class, they went their to sign a NFL contract. We all know there are schools out there like that. Why is anyone surprised? Laughing

They way they recruit I am sure they will have a lot of talented players and very good team again next year.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chase Thomas is an OLB!
I think CWood is on the boat with you. I could be totally wrong but I recall 1) him not being a fan 2) him saying he's a better OLB fit than ILB for us.


Like him a good deal more kicking him inside.

And please refrain from discussing race. Thanks.
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Chase Thomas is an OLB!
not a very good one. Guyy is gonna bust hard if that's what you want him to play. Has a chance to succeed inside but no upside. Ceiling if an average starter. If that's what you're looking for he's your guy. Just don't want that guy before round 5.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pugger wrote:
nfldraftguru1 wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
I wish Ball and Vaccarro accepted their Senior Bowl bids.


Don't blame Ball for not going. Guy has a ton of film on him and a ton of mileage on those legs already. He's had a tough year, starting out with getting jumped on,resulting in a concussion. So why risk injury at this point?

He's probably preparing for the Combine, where if he pulls better numbers than some think in drills, could maybe improve his draft stock.


moving on.....every year weird things happen in the draft and good players fall from where projected. The Pack have benefited from this with players like Bulaga.

As strange and as unlikely it is to happen, 2 possibles at this point as LBer Olgetree (would love to see Bears draft Te'o and allow him to drop to us) and WR Keenan Allen.

I really love Ogletree, dude is physical and fast.


I thought I heard he has off the field issues tho...


FWIW he was just arrested for a DUI.

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The DUI arrest, though, could alter teams' thinking, especially since this is not the first time Ogletree has had trouble off the field.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8956303/report-alec-ogletree-former-georgia-bulldogs-linebacker-arrested-dui
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbens06 wrote:
Pugger wrote:
nfldraftguru1 wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
I wish Ball and Vaccarro accepted their Senior Bowl bids.


Don't blame Ball for not going. Guy has a ton of film on him and a ton of mileage on those legs already. He's had a tough year, starting out with getting jumped on,resulting in a concussion. So why risk injury at this point?

He's probably preparing for the Combine, where if he pulls better numbers than some think in drills, could maybe improve his draft stock.


moving on.....every year weird things happen in the draft and good players fall from where projected. The Pack have benefited from this with players like Bulaga.

As strange and as unlikely it is to happen, 2 possibles at this point as LBer Olgetree (would love to see Bears draft Te'o and allow him to drop to us) and WR Keenan Allen.

I really love Ogletree, dude is physical and fast.


I thought I heard he has off the field issues tho...


FWIW he was just arrested for a DUI.

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The DUI arrest, though, could alter teams' thinking, especially since this is not the first time Ogletree has had trouble off the field.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8956303/report-alec-ogletree-former-georgia-bulldogs-linebacker-arrested-dui


And its not like this is his first off field incident he has been in trouble. He's been busted a couple times before and missed games because of suspension. This most recent DUI makes me completely uninterested in him. To be doing stupid stuff like this before the combine is idiotic and I think it kills whatever chance we had drafting him because TT isn't going to stand for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Ogletree is now off TT's board, and he's most likely now a Bengal.
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That DUI did not help that young man for sure when you look at his history. Still say he goes day1 though and pending interviews will stay on most all boards. This is a nice class but Ogletree is clearly one of the better pure talents. Still a little raw, but if he played a premium he would go very high more years than not. Even more so in todays NFL.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Palmy,what can you tell me about Phillip Steward OLB,6'1",230 (Houston).
Would he be a fit in Green Bay?
Round?
THANKS
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
That DUI did not help that young man for sure when you look at his history. Still say he goes day1 though and pending interviews will stay on most all boards. This is a nice class but Ogletree is clearly one of the better pure talents. Still a little raw, but if he played a premium he would go very high more years than not. Even more so in todays NFL.


Did he remove himself from TT's board?
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I'd argue Jordy is probably around the 30th-40th best receiver in the NFL, maybe 50th.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Palmy, you said that the biggest need for the Packers is a tone setter on D. Who are the tone setters in this draft ? (Floyd,Ansah,Jefferson ??)
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Palmy, you said that the biggest need for the Packers is a tone setter on D. Who are the tone setters in this draft ? (Floyd,Ansah,Jefferson ??)



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pmikep wrote:
Palmy,what can you tell me about Phillip Steward OLB,6'1",230 (Houston).
Would he be a fit in Green Bay?
Round?
THANKS


Think I would pass at fit. Lacks the length/athletic ability to play outside and the take on skills to play inside. One hell of a ST's player though. Wonder if he would be willing to pull a Korey Hall also?
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CentralFC wrote:
palmy50 wrote:
That DUI did not help that young man for sure when you look at his history. Still say he goes day1 though and pending interviews will stay on most all boards. This is a nice class but Ogletree is clearly one of the better pure talents. Still a little raw, but if he played a premium he would go very high more years than not. Even more so in todays NFL.


Did he remove himself from TT's board?


No clue!
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