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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This just continues to go back to the way Ken Whisenhunt ran things. It does. He was bashed by 90% of the posters here for hiring a quote "puppet offensive coordinator" in Mike Miller and now Arians is hiring an offensive coordinator who isn't that. He's nothing. I like that we're going to have a bunch of eyes and ears on the offensive line, I love it in fact but the offensive coordinator position is so much more than that. Hiring Harold Goodwin for that position is just sickening. He's got no background, no qualifications and no reason to be in that title.

All this does it make me further question why we fired Ken Whisenhunt.


My thoughts 100%. You want more eyes on the OL. Hire two or three OL coaches, there is no limit on the number you can hire. Just don't give one the OC title and run with it.

This really, really stinks. Our coaching staff is going backwards in leaps and bounds right now. We have let go of two of the best positional coaches in the business in Ron Aiken and Louie Cioffi, and for what?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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His offensive coordinator was a quality control coach 1 year ago, his RBs coach was out of football last year. That's 2 of 3 guys he's rumored to be hiring. Talk about ridiculous.

LOL and as you mentioned, people were trashing Ray for his reported staff. What a joke.


And at the same time we have let go of Cioffi, Raich and Aiken. For what. There are very, very few guys out there that have proven themselves to the level of Ron and Louie and Matt, from what I can remember from you buddy, has been highly thought about internally.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had hopes for Arians putting together a good staff. All I see right now are jobs for buddies.

And this explains how he could say that the coaching staff would be in place by Sunday!. It's a lot easier to do something like that when the guys you had in mind had no real other possible offers from any program of significance. He's bringing in stop-gaps. I'm expecting a shuffling of the deck so to speak after next season.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we hired your old ST coach (didn't know where else to put it). Good or bad?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per LCF, Bowles is official.
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So we hired your old ST coach (didn't know where else to put it). Good or bad?


He took what should have been a top[ 3 STs unit and got it to play like a bottom 3 unit. Penalties were constant. As in, 2-3 per game. Every game.

One of the only coaching moves we've made this week that I fully endorse.
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JammerHammer21 wrote:
So we hired your old ST coach (didn't know where else to put it). Good or bad?


He took what should have been a top[ 3 STs unit and got it to play like a bottom 3 unit. Penalties were constant. As in, 2-3 per game. Every game.

One of the only coaching moves we've made this week that I fully endorse.


Ah crap. Could he at least have good blocking schemes for punts? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JammerHammer21 wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
So we hired your old ST coach (didn't know where else to put it). Good or bad?


He took what should have been a top[ 3 STs unit and got it to play like a bottom 3 unit. Penalties were constant. As in, 2-3 per game. Every game.

One of the only coaching moves we've made this week that I fully endorse.


Ah crap. Could he at least have good blocking schemes for punts? Laughing


Watch Peterson return punts this year. You'll get a resounding "NO".
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stchamp98 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
So we hired your old ST coach (didn't know where else to put it). Good or bad?


He took what should have been a top[ 3 STs unit and got it to play like a bottom 3 unit. Penalties were constant. As in, 2-3 per game. Every game.

One of the only coaching moves we've made this week that I fully endorse.


Ah crap. Could he at least have good blocking schemes for punts? Laughing


Watch Peterson return punts this year. You'll get a resounding "NO".


Well I meant more can he prevent blocks since I'm sure SciFi would like that for once. Laughing
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JammerHammer21 wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
So we hired your old ST coach (didn't know where else to put it). Good or bad?


He took what should have been a top[ 3 STs unit and got it to play like a bottom 3 unit. Penalties were constant. As in, 2-3 per game. Every game.

One of the only coaching moves we've made this week that I fully endorse.


Ah crap. Could he at least have good blocking schemes for punts? Laughing


Watch Peterson return punts this year. You'll get a resounding "NO".


Well I meant more can he prevent blocks since I'm sure SciFi would like that for once. Laughing


Ya we did fine it that regard I guess.
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Todd Bowles and Harold Goodwin as the OCs. Say it ain't so. Sad
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If I'm alone in this that's fine but I'm kind of excited about Todd Bowles. I think he's a quality coach.
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What happened to Todd Bowles in the eyes of many FFers? I don't remember many, if any, that didn't want Bowles two years ago instead of Ray Horton, now because of half a season as a DC who tried to change schemes mid season on a team that had already quit no one wants him??? He was a very good DBs coach in Miami and Dallas and since he has left them you didn't see the same standard of play from their DBs in either situation.
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Hearing both coordinators OC Harold Goodwin DC Todd Bowles have agreed to join the Cards, Darryl Drake (Bears) will be the WR coach. #cards
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stchamp98 wrote:
If I'm alone in this that's fine but I'm kind of excited about Todd Bowles. I think he's a quality coach.

I'm right with you. The stint at the Eagles shouldn't sour anyone on the fact that Bowles is a very good coach who will continue to get the most out of this defense.
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