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He is my pre combine pick at #10 right now. Looking forward to Senior Bowl next week to see him and others prospects in 1 on 1 practice. He is the right guy for CJ & Locker. Resign Velasco, add Warmack in the draft and Levtrie in free agency the OL will be fine.
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KingTitan
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I just can't see anyone drafting an OG at #10. I know restructured salary slots and what not for top picks make a difference. However, an OG at #10 is hard.
Especially when I love Johnathan Cooper from North Carolina, who should be around later in the 1st or early in the 2nd.
I'd just want a guy that can make more of a singular impact than an OG. |
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After putting up with our interior of Amano and Harris for the past few years, and the rotating doors aside from them, I am all for selecting him if the front office believes he can establish himself as an All-Pro type of player.
Say what you will about the OG position, we've got good tackles, if we can really improve that interior line, and prevent CJ from getting hit in the backfield as often, you will see a MUCH more substantial improvement in the offense than something like signing Dwayne Bowe would do.
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KingTitan
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| RuskieTitan wrote: | After putting up with our interior of Amano and Harris for the past few years, and the rotating doors aside from them, I am all for selecting him if the front office believes he can establish himself as an All-Pro type of player.
Say what you will about the OG position, we've got good tackles, if we can really improve that interior line, and prevent CJ from getting hit in the backfield as often, you will see a MUCH more substantial improvement in the offense than something like signing Dwayne Bowe would do. |
Disagree.
It is rare when an OG or interior lineman by themselves, can be a game changer. If it happens at all.
But a WR, DE, DT, LB, S or RB..etc... We have seen one player at those positions transform a team.
Not saying Womack wouldn't help significantly, but by himself he is nothing. |
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RuskieTitan
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| KingTitan wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | After putting up with our interior of Amano and Harris for the past few years, and the rotating doors aside from them, I am all for selecting him if the front office believes he can establish himself as an All-Pro type of player.
Say what you will about the OG position, we've got good tackles, if we can really improve that interior line, and prevent CJ from getting hit in the backfield as often, you will see a MUCH more substantial improvement in the offense than something like signing Dwayne Bowe would do. |
Disagree.
It is rare when an OG or interior lineman by themselves, can be a game changer. If it happens at all.
But a WR, DE, DT, LB, S or RB..etc... We have seen one player at those positions transform a team.
Not saying Womack wouldn't help significantly, but by himself he is nothing. |
Having Amano sit on IR this year has made you forget how bad he is.
Don't worry, knowing us we'll start him next season, and then maybe you'll remember.
Amano makes Chris Johnson get tackled in the backfield for 5 yard losses soon as he gets the ball. Pretty sure Warmack won't do that, and would actually get a push. That's a negative play into some positive yards.
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KingTitan
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| RuskieTitan wrote: | | KingTitan wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | After putting up with our interior of Amano and Harris for the past few years, and the rotating doors aside from them, I am all for selecting him if the front office believes he can establish himself as an All-Pro type of player.
Say what you will about the OG position, we've got good tackles, if we can really improve that interior line, and prevent CJ from getting hit in the backfield as often, you will see a MUCH more substantial improvement in the offense than something like signing Dwayne Bowe would do. |
Disagree.
It is rare when an OG or interior lineman by themselves, can be a game changer. If it happens at all.
But a WR, DE, DT, LB, S or RB..etc... We have seen one player at those positions transform a team.
Not saying Womack wouldn't help significantly, but by himself he is nothing. |
Having Amano sit on IR this year has made you forget how bad he is.
Don't worry, knowing us we'll start him next season, and then maybe you'll remember.
Amano makes Chris Johnson get tackled in the backfield for 5 yard losses soon as he gets the ball. Pretty sure Warmack won't do that, and would actually get a push. That's a negative play into some positive yards. |
That's fine for someone who believed the problem was all on the line. I'm not one of those people.
My feelings remain. An OG will never have the impact of a superstar at skilled position or dominating D-lineman.
So if a player at one of those other spots are seen to be talented, I couldn't take an OG at #10. No matter how good he is. I'll just get one that isn't "as great" in the 2nd. |
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justing101
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| KingTitan wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | | KingTitan wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | After putting up with our interior of Amano and Harris for the past few years, and the rotating doors aside from them, I am all for selecting him if the front office believes he can establish himself as an All-Pro type of player.
Say what you will about the OG position, we've got good tackles, if we can really improve that interior line, and prevent CJ from getting hit in the backfield as often, you will see a MUCH more substantial improvement in the offense than something like signing Dwayne Bowe would do. |
Disagree.
It is rare when an OG or interior lineman by themselves, can be a game changer. If it happens at all.
But a WR, DE, DT, LB, S or RB..etc... We have seen one player at those positions transform a team.
Not saying Womack wouldn't help significantly, but by himself he is nothing. |
Having Amano sit on IR this year has made you forget how bad he is.
Don't worry, knowing us we'll start him next season, and then maybe you'll remember.
Amano makes Chris Johnson get tackled in the backfield for 5 yard losses soon as he gets the ball. Pretty sure Warmack won't do that, and would actually get a push. That's a negative play into some positive yards. |
That's fine for someone who believed the problem was all on the line. I'm not one of those people.
My feelings remain. An OG will never have the impact of a superstar at skilled position or dominating D-lineman.
So if a player at one of those other spots are seen to be talented, I couldn't take an OG at #10. No matter how good he is. I'll just get one that isn't "as great" in the 2nd. |
There is no way anyone can say there is not a huge problem with our line and be honest about it.
CJ is a scat back, you cant have 3 people on top of him as he is getting the ball.
Come on man.
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| justing101 wrote: | There is no way anyone can say there is not a huge problem with our line and be honest about it.
CJ is a scat back, you cant have 3 people on top of him as he is getting the ball.
Come on man. |
I'm not saying there isn't a problem with our line. Also, anyone can see that CJ wasn't running like he was supposed to early. But not my arguement here....
I'm saying I just would rather get a more impactful player at #10. I disagree with value and your definition of impact player. I think we can address the interior line with FA and at highest a 2nd round pick. I think that will fix things nicely. All while getting someone we hope to make an big impact at #10.
Chances are higher for an impact player, other than an OG at #10, than finding one later in the draft. |
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justing101
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| KingTitan wrote: | | justing101 wrote: | There is no way anyone can say there is not a huge problem with our line and be honest about it.
CJ is a scat back, you cant have 3 people on top of him as he is getting the ball.
Come on man. |
I'm not saying there isn't a problem with our line. Also, anyone can see that CJ wasn't running like he was supposed to early. But not my arguement here....
I'm saying I just would rather get a more impactful player at #10. I disagree with value and your definition of impact player. I think we can address the interior line with FA and at highest a 2nd round pick. I think that will fix things nicely. All while getting someone we hope to make an big impact at #10.
Chances are higher for an impact player, other than an OG at #10, than finding one later in the draft. |
Id rather have Star and Damontre Moore before Warmack and get Cooper in round 2. Were not so different after all. 
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Alot of the mock drafts iv seen so far they have the Titans taking Warmack. In Bucky Brooks mock he didnt have Star drafted in the top 10
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Titans have two best OL players right now. Michael Roos & David Steward. Adding the number one draft pick on top of that from bama would make it even more amazing. we would be booked like legit. our running game and passing game would be back and running better then ever. if i were the titans i would go with OL frist. We also need a better Center... Maybe loooking for one in the 2second round? get two OL players in the draft? then work up to our DL?
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| derekfelty wrote: | | Titans have two best OL players right now. Michael Roos & David Steward. Adding the number one draft pick on top of that from bama would make it even more amazing. we would be booked like legit. our running game and passing game would be back and running better then ever. if i were the titans i would go with OL frist. We also need a better Center... Maybe loooking for one in the 2second round? get two OL players in the draft? then work up to our DL? |
I dont think we need a better Center if we get one great but Velasco did fine i can live with him im willing to best hes only gonna get better but for sure theres 2 guys that i dont want anymore and thats Amano and Harris.
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| Titans fan 617 wrote: | | derekfelty wrote: | | Titans have two best OL players right now. Michael Roos & David Steward. Adding the number one draft pick on top of that from bama would make it even more amazing. we would be booked like legit. our running game and passing game would be back and running better then ever. if i were the titans i would go with OL frist. We also need a better Center... Maybe loooking for one in the 2second round? get two OL players in the draft? then work up to our DL? |
I dont think we need a better Center if we get one great but Velasco did fine i can live with him im willing to best hes only gonna get better but for sure theres 2 guys that i dont want anymore and thats Amano and Harris. |
Also, it seems to me that there could be a chance Hutch retires.
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