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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As unimpressive as Manti was in the championship game i just can't see how he falls out of the first round even after this story leaked out. He has great anticipation and intelligence to play ILB. Though he missed a few tackles he was always around the ball in that game. He probably won't be a top 10 pick but i just can't see him passing a team like the Packers in the draft. I could be wrong but Manti had an awesome senior season and teams needing a good play caller on defense will give Manti a long look.

But should Miami roll the dice on Manti? We have way more pressing issues than LB at the moment.
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[quote="Manlaw15"]As unimpressive as Manti was in the championship game i just can't see how he falls out of the first round even after this story leaked out. He has great anticipation and intelligence to play ILB. Though he missed a few tackles he was always around the ball in that game. He probably won't be a top 10 pick but i just can't see him passing a team like the Packers in the draft. I could be wrong but Manti had an awesome senior season and teams needing a good play caller on defense will give Manti a long look.

But should Miami roll the dice on Manti? We have way more pressing issues than LB at the moment.[/quote

You know Several people that know more than I do bout NCAA ball said that ND had kinda a cup cake schedule.-

Hmm
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[quote="SUG"]
Manlaw15 wrote:
As unimpressive as Manti was in the championship game i just can't see how he falls out of the first round even after this story leaked out. He has great anticipation and intelligence to play ILB. Though he missed a few tackles he was always around the ball in that game. He probably won't be a top 10 pick but i just can't see him passing a team like the Packers in the draft. I could be wrong but Manti had an awesome senior season and teams needing a good play caller on defense will give Manti a long look.

But should Miami roll the dice on Manti? We have way more pressing issues than LB at the moment.[/quote

You know Several people that know more than I do bout NCAA ball said that ND had kinda a cup cake schedule.-

Hmm
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They did....the only real contender they played until Alabama was Stanford....Pitt even took them to triple over time....

Notre Dame had no business being in that game, but being undefeated and having the level of attention that they did propelled them into that game. Does anyone thing that ND would have fared any better against...Texas AM, LSU, Oregon, FSU, Louisville, South Carolina....

I liked Teo for his leadership and instinct on the field, but he isn't a great athlete and feared very poorly against a team of future NFL players....in fact other then the announcers mentioning his name a couple of time I completely forgot he was even playing. He was exposed....
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You know Several people that know more than I do bout NCAA ball said that ND had kinda a cup cake schedule.-

Hmm
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ND finished in the top 10 in schedule strength this season. That is pretty legit if you ask me and Manti delivered. Except the championship game.

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team
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I'm still waiting for someone to get my "susceptable to the fake" joke Laughing
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I'm still waiting for someone to get my "susceptable to the fake" joke Laughing


I got it and it fits perfectly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manlaw15 wrote:
SUG wrote:


You know Several people that know more than I do bout NCAA ball said that ND had kinda a cup cake schedule.-

Hmm
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ND finished in the top 10 in schedule strength this season. That is pretty legit if you ask me and Manti delivered. Except the championship game.

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team


Big difference going against the O-lines they played compared to SEC teams....USC was Horrible this year MSU had 5 or 6 losses....I think only one of the teams they played this year won a bowl game.
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Big difference going against the O-lines they played compared to SEC teams....USC was Horrible this year MSU had 5 or 6 losses....I think only one of the teams they played this year won a bowl game.


I think your right looking at their schedule. Plus Alabama has one of those freak of nature once in a lifetime of a coach kind of Olines. They probably have 2 1st round picks coming from that Oline.
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I think SUG is spot on with his Rolando McClain comparison.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we dont even need a LB this year, drafting Te'o would be retarded. i would take any LB out of the SEC before i take Te'o, just because the competition/talent level in the SEC is so much better

have you not seen Koa Misi play?? dude is a beast.. and we already have Dansby and Burnett

that being said, i think Te'o definitely slipped out of the first round based off his performance against Alabama and his character issues
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Ogletree and Bostic are two guys I would take before Te'o, I'd even take Minter over him as well.
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Manlaw15 wrote:
ViolentMonk71 wrote:

Big difference going against the O-lines they played compared to SEC teams....USC was Horrible this year MSU had 5 or 6 losses....I think only one of the teams they played this year won a bowl game.


I think your right looking at their schedule. Plus Alabama has one of those freak of nature once in a lifetime of a coach kind of Olines. They probably have 2 1st round picks coming from that Oline.
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Don't see the McClain comparison and here is why. McClain is a guy that was active shedding blockers. What he did NOT do is get downhill against the run and attack the line of scrimmage, he moved laterally and caught the ball carrier.

T'eo is much more active attacking the line of scrimmage and navigating through/avoiding traffic. He isn't as good at shedding blocks as McClain was, but he's certainly smarter, more athletic and more technically sound than McClain.

The comparison with them starts and ends with they don't have off the chart measurables. That's it.
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[quote="ViolentMonk71"]
SUG wrote:
Manlaw15 wrote:
As unimpressive as Manti was in the championship game i just can't see how he falls out of the first round even after this story leaked out. He has great anticipation and intelligence to play ILB. Though he missed a few tackles he was always around the ball in that game. He probably won't be a top 10 pick but i just can't see him passing a team like the Packers in the draft. I could be wrong but Manti had an awesome senior season and teams needing a good play caller on defense will give Manti a long look.

But should Miami roll the dice on Manti? We have way more pressing issues than LB at the moment.[/quote

You know Several people that know more than I do bout NCAA ball said that ND had kinda a cup cake schedule.-

Hmm
Sug


They did....the only real contender they played until Alabama was Stanford....Pitt even took them to triple over time....

Notre Dame had no business being in that game, but being undefeated and having the level of attention that they did propelled them into that game. Does anyone thing that ND would have fared any better against...Texas AM, LSU, Oregon, FSU, Louisville, South Carolina....

I liked Teo for his leadership and instinct on the field, but he isn't a great athlete and feared very poorly against a team of future NFL players....in fact other then the announcers mentioning his name a couple of time I completely forgot he was even playing. He was exposed....


Well, yeah I do. The facts are styles make fights. Notre Dame was obviously flawed but none of those teams you mention play the brand of football as Alabama, with the exception of LSU. Even LSU has liabilities at QB. I think Notre Dame facing Alabama was their worst nightmare. They would have fared so much better facing Georgia who is more prolific throwing the ball. Getting beat through the air is a lot easier to swallow then getting run on. Alabama did the equivalent of raping Notre Dame. They forcefully and physically pushed them around . That is the most demeaning thing you can do to a man. A man can handle being out ran but to be overpowered does a mind job. Notre Dame was beat mentally because they realized they could not stop a simple dive play.

Manti Teo realized he was on the field amongst grown mean that were fundamentally taking his man hood and he could not retaliate. Through the concept guilty by association, Manti Teo was also raped by the Crimson Tide. It is justifiable for any scout to fall out of love with Teo because the Alabama game plan is more the norm in the NFL.
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[quote="ovaw8lover"]
ViolentMonk71 wrote:
SUG wrote:
Manlaw15 wrote:
As unimpressive as Manti was in the championship game i just can't see how he falls out of the first round even after this story leaked out. He has great anticipation and intelligence to play ILB. Though he missed a few tackles he was always around the ball in that game. He probably won't be a top 10 pick but i just can't see him passing a team like the Packers in the draft. I could be wrong but Manti had an awesome senior season and teams needing a good play caller on defense will give Manti a long look.

But should Miami roll the dice on Manti? We have way more pressing issues than LB at the moment.[/quote

You know Several people that know more than I do bout NCAA ball said that ND had kinda a cup cake schedule.-

Hmm
Sug


They did....the only real contender they played until Alabama was Stanford....Pitt even took them to triple over time....

Notre Dame had no business being in that game, but being undefeated and having the level of attention that they did propelled them into that game. Does anyone thing that ND would have fared any better against...Texas AM, LSU, Oregon, FSU, Louisville, South Carolina....

I liked Teo for his leadership and instinct on the field, but he isn't a great athlete and feared very poorly against a team of future NFL players....in fact other then the announcers mentioning his name a couple of time I completely forgot he was even playing. He was exposed....


Well, yeah I do. The facts are styles make fights. Notre Dame was obviously flawed but none of those teams you mention play the brand of football as Alabama, with the exception of LSU. Even LSU has liabilities at QB. I think Notre Dame facing Alabama was their worst nightmare. They would have fared so much better facing Georgia who is more prolific throwing the ball. Getting beat through the air is a lot easier to swallow then getting run on. Alabama did the equivalent of raping Notre Dame. They forcefully and physically pushed them around . That is the most demeaning thing you can do to a man. A man can handle being out ran but to be overpowered does a mind job. Notre Dame was beat mentally because they realized they could not stop a simple dive play.

Manti Teo realized he was on the field amongst grown mean that were fundamentally taking his man hood and he could not retaliate. Through the concept guilty by associate, Manti Teo was also raped by the Crimson Tide. It is justifiable for any scout to fall out of love with Teo because the Alabama game plan is more the norm in the NFL.


The type of team is the essence of what Teo will face in the NFL. Warmack and Jones basically made the nation's "top defender" less existent then his girlfriend. There were plenty of LB's that at least competed, but Teo showed that he can't handle the big boys. Texas AM had a line that was comparable...

Notre Dame's biggest flaw is they did not have the horses to compete... I would compare them to that mid-major team that makes it into the NCAA tournament...they were a group of older guys who had played together for a number of years that won same games they normally would have loss. The teams they played were rather poor throughout the season (the bowl games were very telling) and when they played a talented team full of swinging d_--s they were bent over and embarrassed.
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