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HokieHigh


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would the hit look like if we moved on from Pickett?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What would the hit look like if we moved on from Pickett?

I don't think there is one.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Pickett is a guy we should as to restructure. He's not worth his contract right now either. I feel like he's probably at a point where he'd be willing to do this for a decreased role.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more I think about it, the more I like Sims idea.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Sims, too...IF wgbeethree is correct about what it would cost to bring him in.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nfldraftguru1 wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I like Sims idea.
Same here. I keep looking for downside and the more I look, the less I find.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyponGrey wrote:
nfldraftguru1 wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I like Sims idea.
Same here. I keep looking for downside and the more I look, the less I find.

Seems like a damn near perfect replacement for Pickett.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Simms too, not as much as Sammie Lee Hill but he's definitely an intruiging possibility.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

incognito_man wrote:
I think Pickett is a guy we should as to restructure. He's not worth his contract right now either. I feel like he's probably at a point where he'd be willing to do this for a decreased role.

We have no leverage, pickett is absolutely integral.
He's been a rock, and a durable one.
He's the kind of guy coaches love more than fans.
He stepped over and gave raji the NT spot even though Pickett is more stout against the run. (the droppoff between pickett and Raji at DE wouldve been more severe.)


Pickett is very high in the running for most underrated packer.
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xDD80x wrote:
incognito_man wrote:
I think Pickett is a guy we should as to restructure. He's not worth his contract right now either. I feel like he's probably at a point where he'd be willing to do this for a decreased role.

We have no leverage, pickett is absolutely integral.
He's been a rock, and a durable one.
He's the kind of guy coaches love more than fans.
He stepped over and gave raji the NT spot even though Pickett is more stout against the run. (the droppoff between pickett and Raji at DE wouldve been more severe.)


Pickett is very high in the running for most underrated packer.


I like Pickett, but it doesn't mean he's worth his contract. He is a beast in the run game, but only should be on the field for 20 snaps a game. Offers NOTHING in the pass game. A run stuffing specialist isn't worth what he makes.

We also have leverage because he is in his last year. It might make sense to extend him for less/yr but more total guaranteed. He has a few years yet for sure doing what he does. He's a great guy to have around, but he is overcompensated for his role currently.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm definitely staying away from this guys like Woodson and Freeney this year. On the wrong side of the age game, and Freeney would fit in much better with an NYG/ATL type of team.

However, assuming the following players DO hit free agency, they would be very intriguing, under the radar prospects that could bring a bit to our defense without breaking any kind of bank on a "big name" guy.

Mike Devito (DE - NYJ) - This guy just screams Packer to me. A player that gets every ounce of talent out of his body, a true pro, and has a work ethic GB would welcome with open arms. Great guy here. Would love to see him in this fit.

Dannell Ellerbe (ILB - BAL) - Here is another great player, but I think it's coming down to him or Kruger as a cap casualty because the Ravens have too many players left to sign. Hopefully, Baltimore goes with Kruger so we can get a chance at snatching this kid. I don't think they will, because of the Ray Lewis departure, but he was a bad man. Watch the Superbowl game again. This guy tore it up while Lewis looked consistently AWFUL. Although I am a bit concerned that he'll be overpaid if he hits the market due to the "he just won a Superbowl" effect. If he wants a lot of coin, I'd pass, but for the right price...

Still, 2 good pieces for this defense that wouldn't cost much at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to say that IMO Pickett's best year as a Packer was this past season. I have no issue with that cap number and feel the Packers are blessed to have him. Very good at what they ask him to do out there. As stout as any DL in the league right now also. Better hook a GMC up to that boy if ya want to move him..... Laughing

Going with youth always looks like a good idea on paper. Just sayin. You would be given away a good one still playing high grade football right there.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
I just want to say that IMO Pickett's best year as a Packer was this past season. I have no issue with that cap number and feel the Packers are blessed to have him. Very good at what they ask him to do out there. As stout as any DL in the league right now also. Better hook a GMC up to that boy if ya want to move him..... Laughing

Going with youth always looks like a good idea on paper. Just sayin. You would be given away a good one still playing high grade football right there.


I agree here... Pickett is one of the few vets left on this team that still runs high grade fuel in the tank


now I'm not sure how much more he will have after this coming up season, but iirc this is his last contract year so I have a hard time seeing the Packers moving him (especially since Rodgers probably wont start serious money talks till next season anyway)

really the only current packers contracts that could get bothersome down the road are Hawk's & possibly Tramon's if he struggles to regain full '10 form

Hawk is so damn durable though its tough for me to completely crap on him & his contract either
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketchup wrote:
From Evan Silva's article on Rotoworld about team needs...
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While 2011 first-round pick Derek Sherrod is due back from a broken leg, he projected to right tackle or guard before the injury.


I mean I can see where some people don't and cant' know every little detail about every single team but just a little bit of research would prove this massively wrong.

He listed OT as our 2nd biggest need. With depth like Bulaga, Sherrod, Newhouse and Barclay, I wouldn't even consider it a need at all, much less a priority.


Sherrod is no guard. We tried him there before he broke his leg and he really struggled there. I'm gonna guess we are thinking of putting him at LT to compete with Newhouse this spring/summer. We should keep Bulaga at RT. I agree, with Barclay and Datko as backups tackle isn't a priority. I hope we look for a center and some depth at guard.
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2Bigby0 wrote:
cooters22 wrote:
byzr wrote:
ditto with 2bigby0. our offensive line, WHEN HEALTHY, is good. they're not a running offensive line but they're a good passing offensive line. as long as the coaching staff is comfortable with the health of the offensive line i would draft for depth.
the two deep Safeties takes away the big play but we don't adjust well for it. the last couple games we did start adjusting and throwing screens and underneath passes but it was to little to late.


How can you guys say that? Our unit gave up a league high in sacks? I just think you guys are delusional.


Well, it's actually second highest if you're going to throw stats around. And again, 14 of those sacks are on Aaron Rodgers. That's also a fact.

So, consider this... Our unit gave up 37 sacks with multiple backups all season. There needs to be improvement from our QB in getting rid of the ball. A large portion of the blame needs to go to playcalling. We faced 2-High Safety's all season, and during the early portion of the season we kept running vertical routes. How long do you expect an offensive line to block people? I've stated it numerous times but on average, Rodgers had 2.7 seconds to throw the football. That's a pretty solid number considering the Packers preach to their QB's to have the ball out in 2.5 seconds.

I just think you aren't really sure what you're talking about.


If Rodgers is getting enough time to throw maybe we have to take a hard look at our WRs here. Are they not getting open? I'm beginning to suspect we aren't getting separation. I have no proof here, just speculating...
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