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CowboysTilIDie 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Desperado82 wrote: | | CowboysTilIDie wrote: | | Good. I don't think he'll succeed at this level. |
Not good. I think he will. |
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Matts4313 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| CowboysTilIDie wrote: | | Desperado82 wrote: | | CowboysTilIDie wrote: | | Good. I don't think he'll succeed at this level. |
Not good. I think he will. |
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Desperado82 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| CowboysTilIDie wrote: | | Desperado82 wrote: | | CowboysTilIDie wrote: | | Good. I don't think he'll succeed at this level. |
Not good. I think he will. |
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WizardHawk 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Matts4313 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: | Chris Mortensen @mortreport
Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources. No announcement yet.
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Wow. Guess he had a change of heart. Well, he'll be OK. I'm not terribly confident he'll have the same kind of success, or close to it, he has attained so far. _________________
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Football Mensa 
Joined: 13 Dec 2012 Posts: 621 Location: Texas via Louisiana and I love being Cajun...
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I now put Chip kelly in the same vein as Pete Carroll. Carroll snaked out of USC before probation hit and now Kelly is doing the same thing. I wish him nothing but the worst.
As far as coaching goes I think he will be a fail. It will be interesting to see if Vick is in his plans. I think he will be Spurrier all over again. I have seen an interview with him before and he believes his offense will work in the pro's. It has worked for some teams in small doses. Still you subject your qb to getting hit like RG3 did. On top of that it takes a special kind of qb to execute that kind of offense and they don't grow on trees.
I wonder now if Manziel comes out next year if the Eagles would put all of their chips in his basket. _________________ A circle. The direction the Cowboys continue to travel.
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textaz03 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Wow!!!! Even after he said he was staying at Oregon last week! Eagles must have offered up something pretty good in order for him to change his mind! _________________
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buckwild
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ThePlaymaker86 
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't he say when he returned that he was confident there wouldn't be any sanctions or something?
NCAA coming down with the sanctions hammer, IMO. |
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Texas_OutLaw7 


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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that was unexpected. So that leaves just the Jaguars job. I wonder what this means for Lovie… _________________
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WizardHawk 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Already annoyed with all the apparent panic of Kiffen's D facing the Eagles and Chip Kelly.
Twitter is lighting up with all the past stats and scores. _________________
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| MrDrew wrote: | | I'm pretty sure the cat destroys stuff because it hates you for shoving it in a box every night. |
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Texas_OutLaw7 


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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| WizardHawk wrote: | Already annoyed with all the apparent panic of Kiffen's D facing the Eagles and Chip Kelly.
Twitter is lighting up with all the past stats and scores. |
Agreed. It's as annoying as people spelling Witten's or Kiffin's name wrong. But I, for one, am thrilled that the off-season champs are already being crowned. That has worked out so well in the past. _________________
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plan9misfit 

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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I can't imagine Chip Kelly having any sustained success running that system in the NFL for some of these reasons:
1.The QB is exposed too much. Having your QB run that much opens the door for serious injury without a capable backup to step in.
2 The QB doesn't make reads of coverages in that system, thus limiting what an offense can do once the defense adjusts to that scheme.
3. The hash marks are closer to each other in the NFL than in college, thus limiting the stretch plays to the outside and limits the ability to spread a defense out and run the ball up the middle (Chip Kelly's bread and butter play).
4. Good luck convincing a lazy NFL veteran to consistently run up to the LOS every 15 seconds.
5. Finding players to play that scheme is tough, and finding ample depth is tougher.
6. Defenses are smarter, faster, and have more sophisticated schemes and coordinators than in college (save Kirby Smart), thus limiting the duration of time that offense can work. Just remember how quickly the Single Wing (aka "Wildcat") offense came into the league when Miami used it against New England, and then how quickly it faded once defenses adjusted to it. This will be no different. _________________
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buckwild
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| plan9misfit wrote: | I can't imagine Chip Kelly having any sustained success running that system in the NFL for some of these reasons:
1.The QB is exposed too much. Having your QB run that much opens the door for serious injury without a capable backup to step in.
2 The QB doesn't make reads of coverages in that system, thus limiting what an offense can do once the defense adjusts to that scheme.
3. The hash marks are closer to each other in the NFL than in college, thus limiting the stretch plays to the outside and limits the ability to spread a defense out and run the ball up the middle (Chip Kelly's bread and butter play).
4. Good luck convincing a lazy NFL veteran to consistently run up to the LOS every 15 seconds.
5. Finding players to play that scheme is tough, and finding ample depth is tougher.
6. Defenses are smarter, faster, and have more sophisticated schemes and coordinators than in college (save Kirby Smart), thus limiting the duration of time that offense can work. Just remember how quickly the Single Wing (aka "Wildcat") offense came into the league when Miami used it against New England, and then how quickly it faded once defenses adjusted to it. This will be no different. |
You have to look at Chip Kelly's offense as something similar to What the Patriots run, and I want to think BB brought Kelly in a year or two ago to help NE learn that offense.
I do agree with that offense putting the QB in harm's way way too often, and who are the Eagles going to get to play QB. Vick will be dead by week 6 running that offense, and don't think he has the patience and smarts to run that offense.
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plan9misfit 

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| textaz03 wrote: | | Wow!!!! Even after he said he was staying at Oregon last week! Eagles must have offered up something pretty good in order for him to change his mind! |
That, and he was reminded of the NCAA sanctions that will come down from the recruiting violations. _________________
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| The_Slamman wrote: | | It's like we are in a win now mentality with lose now personnel. |
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WizardHawk 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Texas_OutLaw7 wrote: | | WizardHawk wrote: | Already annoyed with all the apparent panic of Kiffen's D facing the Eagles and Chip Kelly.
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Agreed. It's as annoying as people spelling Witten's or Kiffin's name wrong. |
Yeah, I know, totally annoying. Bunch of idiots, right? ....wait....Ohhhh
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| MrDrew wrote: | | I'm pretty sure the cat destroys stuff because it hates you for shoving it in a box every night. |
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