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vikingsrule
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| thestonedkoala wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | thestonedkoala wrote: | | Bevell gets a lot of crap thrown at him but he just took the Seahawks deep in the playoffs with a ROOKIE QB. Carroll isn't an offensive guru... |
Neither was Childress. |
Wait what? Childress was an offensive coordinator and coach. |
It was a joke.
Just because Childress coached offense all of his coaching career doesnt make him an offensive guru.
Belichick often gets credited for a lot of Brady's success and he was a defensive coach as well. |
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thestonedkoala
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| vikingsrule wrote: | | thestonedkoala wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | thestonedkoala wrote: | | Bevell gets a lot of crap thrown at him but he just took the Seahawks deep in the playoffs with a ROOKIE QB. Carroll isn't an offensive guru... |
Neither was Childress. |
Wait what? Childress was an offensive coordinator and coach. |
It was a joke.
Just because Childress coached offense all of his coaching career doesnt make him an offensive guru.
Belichick often gets credited for a lot of Brady's success and he was a defensive coach as well. |
Actually I thought it was McDaniels that got credited for Brady's success, not Belichick. Belichick gets credited with the Patriots and getting Brady the rings and the team but not necessarily developing him. |
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vikingsrule
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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I find that hard to believe since Brady and McDaniels are basically the same age and McDaniels didnt join the Pats offensive staff until 2004. By then, Brady won his rings.
McDaniels is clearly a case of an assistant coach riding the coat tails of two HOFers. |
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thestonedkoala
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| vikingsrule wrote: | I find that hard to believe since Brady and McDaniels are basically the same age and McDaniels didnt join the Pats offensive staff until 2004. By then, Brady won his rings.
McDaniels is clearly a case of an assistant coach riding the coat tails of two HOFers. |
Then it was Charlie Weis (getting my years mixed up) |
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vikingsrule
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| thestonedkoala wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | I find that hard to believe since Brady and McDaniels are basically the same age and McDaniels didnt join the Pats offensive staff until 2004. By then, Brady won his rings.
McDaniels is clearly a case of an assistant coach riding the coat tails of two HOFers. |
Then it was Charlie Weis (getting my years mixed up) |
Maybe, then again, what has Weis ever done outside of Brady and Belichick. Might be another case, most coaches have failed once they leave Brady/Belichick.
I guess I would be concerned with Bevell riding the success of Favre and Carrol/Wilson, but we may never know how good he really is until he ultimately fails or succeeds. Its a risk the Bears have to take, though there isnt a single riskless hire they could make. |
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vike daddy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Does Bevel have the ability to put together a coaching staff? can he attract anyone of merit?
can he attract free agents, since the Bears tend to go that route?
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ChiSportsFan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| vike daddy wrote: | who else is on the Bears' short list? i mean, i can't really believe that Bevell is at the top of it.
he might be getting interviewed first, but that doesn't mean he's their top choice. |
The other two finalists are Bruce Arians and Montreal Alouettes HC Marc Trestman |
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vikingsrule
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ChiSportsFan wrote: | | vike daddy wrote: | who else is on the Bears' short list? i mean, i can't really believe that Bevell is at the top of it.
he might be getting interviewed first, but that doesn't mean he's their top choice. |
The other two finalists are Bruce Arians and Montreal Alouettes HC Marc Trestman |
Trestman would be interesting, not many Canadian coaches make it in the NFL as head coaches. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| vikingsrule wrote: | | ChiSportsFan wrote: | | vike daddy wrote: | who else is on the Bears' short list? i mean, i can't really believe that Bevell is at the top of it.
he might be getting interviewed first, but that doesn't mean he's their top choice. |
The other two finalists are Bruce Arians and Montreal Alouettes HC Marc Trestman |
Trestman would be interesting, not many Canadian coaches make it in the NFL as head coaches. |
Bud Grant comes to mind, but I get your point.
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vike daddy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ChiSportsFan wrote: | | vike daddy wrote: | who else is on the Bears' short list? i mean, i can't really believe that Bevell is at the top of it.
he might be getting interviewed first, but that doesn't mean he's their top choice. |
The other two finalists are Bruce Arians and Montreal Alouettes HC Marc Trestman |
i'd list Bevell as 3rd on that list.
Trestman has NFL and American college experience.
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vikingsrule
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed, Trestman has a ton of NFL experience.
I like Arians the most for Chicago. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Gut feeling: it's gonna be Trestman
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Klomp wrote: | | Gut feeling: it's gonna be Trestman |
Trestman has deserved to be a NFL head coach for a long time. We are talking about a guy that coached Bernie Kosar, Steve Young, Vinnie Testaverde (rookie season), Rich Gannon (in his MVP season), Scott Mitchell (in his most productive year), and Jake Plummer (with the Cardinals).
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vike daddy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:22 am Post subject: |
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what Seattle fans say about hiring Bevell:
| abdi7451 wrote: | | Please do this. |
| Tatupu_64 wrote: | | I will say this, he has improved over the year. He calls the dumbest 3rd and short plays I have ever seen. |
| NFL_Announcer wrote: | | Take him please God take him. |
| chpjns15 wrote: | I don't want to lose him, simply because Wilson was successful with him, and I dont want to jeopardize that. But I still dont really like him.
However, I think he would make a better HC than OC, as he is a very good players coach. I think the players like him and follow his guidance. |
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vikingsrule
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds about right, i do think Bevell could become a better HC than OC if he can hire two strong coordinators and let them control things. Kind of like Tomlin in Pittsburgh. |
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