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I've never heard of anyone attacking Ross for his business acumen, but rather for his football IQ. This falls squarely in the business acumen category.
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| Mercury22 wrote: | | I've never heard of anyone attacking Ross for his business acumen, but rather for his football IQ. This falls squarely in the business acumen category. |
The guy is attacked for just being the owner....all aspects and I'm sure some will complain about this move. It's just the mentality of sports fans in general....grass is always greener etc....etc....
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| ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | Mercury22 wrote: | | I've never heard of anyone attacking Ross for his business acumen, but rather for his football IQ. This falls squarely in the business acumen category. |
The guy is attacked for just being the owner....all aspects and I'm sure some will complain about this move. It's just the mentality of sports fans in general....grass is always greener etc....etc.... |
I disagree. I believe the fans of our team have legitimate complaints, largely. I believe there have been some really poor decisions made by management for some time. Ross has done nothing to earn the respect of the fans, from what I've seen, and he has done some things that clearly SHOULD have us scratching our heads. In fact, by his own admission, he was in over his head initially. He claims to be adjusted now and ready to contribute to the football side of things. I believe we have plenty of reason to be skeptical. When he does something that tells me otherwise, I am happy to change my opinion about him.
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ViolentMonk71
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| Mercury22 wrote: | | ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | Mercury22 wrote: | | I've never heard of anyone attacking Ross for his business acumen, but rather for his football IQ. This falls squarely in the business acumen category. |
The guy is attacked for just being the owner....all aspects and I'm sure some will complain about this move. It's just the mentality of sports fans in general....grass is always greener etc....etc.... |
I disagree. I believe the fans of our team have legitimate complaints, largely. I believe there have been some really poor decisions made by management for some time. Ross has done nothing to earn the respect of the fans, from what I've seen, and he has done some things that clearly SHOULD have us scratching our heads. In fact, by his own admission, he was in over his head initially. He claims to be adjusted now and ready to contribute to the football side of things. I believe we have plenty of reason to be skeptical. When he does something that tells me otherwise, I am happy to change my opinion about him. |
You act as if this is a recent trend....The Dolphins have been mismanaged since the 80's. How do you not win a Super Bowl with that QB and WR combination? How many year did this team miss on draft picks....John Avery, Yantil Green, Billy Milner, No legitimate defense or run game for Marino. Hell this team only had one first round pick from 99 to 2003 (again this is more GM issues). This has been a franchise that rode the Marino/Shula train as far as it could with very little effort or attention to much else. At least in Ross I see a guy who is interested in improving the Dolphins...he's made mistakes, but I love the effort.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Joe Robbie Sta...uh Pro-Player sta...I mean Sun Life Sta |
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Oh please, don't compare this activity (which I wholeheartedly endorse BTW) to Ross meeting with Harbaugh while Sparano was still our head coach, Ross "working" in the draft room next to Philbin and Ireland, trotting out Philbin to meet with Peyton, trotting our Ireland to take the fall for Hard Knocks, etc, etc...
If Ross keeps his involvement at this level I will sing his praises from the rooftops of the world. Now as far as these improvements go, it looks really cool to me. It would go a LONG way to making the game day experience more tolerable for the fans in the stadium. This is excellent! I hope he can pull this off.
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| Love the look and new ideas and especially the canopy over the stands to make it more enjoyable for the fans to watch the game. I flew to a game 2 years ago and not being used to that weather man was it uncomfortable for me it was a hot day. |
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I love these plans. I have never had a chance to go to a Miami game but I bet the canopy is going to be nice with the weather. The fact that Ross is going to put in most of his money is great. I also liked that if things get done he is set to make a commitment to keep the Dolphins in South Beach for the next 25 years.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Joe Robbie Sta...uh Pro-Player sta...I mean Sun Life Sta |
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| Deadeye wrote: | Oh please, don't compare this activity (which I wholeheartedly endorse BTW) to Ross meeting with Harbaugh while Sparano was still our head coach, Ross "working" in the draft room next to Philbin and Ireland, trotting out Philbin to meet with Peyton, trotting our Ireland to take the fall for Hard Knocks, etc, etc...
If Ross keeps his involvement at this level I will sing his praises from the rooftops of the world. Now as far as these improvements go, it looks really cool to me. It would go a LONG way to making the game day experience more tolerable for the fans in the stadium. This is excellent! I hope he can pull this off. |
So many people have go after him for bringing celebs as minority owners, or trying to turn the team into the NFL version of the Lakers....all business moves...
He's a new owner and heavily invested (owning the team and stadium) so yes when a top coach became available...why not try to court him, was it in poor taste? Yes, but lets be honest Sparano was/is a poor coach (fired twice in one year) and Ross, being a businessman was trying to improve his company....even if it seemed....shady.
What I do like is that Ross is putting in the effort. His desire is in the right place (make the team better and more marketable) and as with any new business owner he's going to have his questionable moves, but he is trying.
Listen, I personally don't care what people think of Ross....it is a slow time for Dolphin news and Dolphin discussion. FA is several months away and the draft even farther....gots to have something to discuss. 
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Why are we attacking him for wanting to bring fans in the stands?
My father in law told me the orange bowl was so much better because the seats were so close to the field. He said this stadium sucked because of that. I like what ross is trying to do.
Besides, Ross is trying to have plenty of seats for the fans that show up when we become a dynasty 
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| I love the way the Upgrades look and I have No Doubt they would improve the Stadium.....However I can't agree with EVER having tax dollars go towards an NFL Stadium......it just flat out disgusts me. It's just ridiculous in this day and age that a tax increase is even an option to improve an Entertainment Venue. |
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| green4gulf wrote: | | I love the way the Upgrades look and I have No Doubt they would improve the Stadium.....However I can't agree with EVER having tax dollars go towards an NFL Stadium......it just flat out disgusts me. It's just ridiculous in this day and age that a tax increase is even an option to improve an Entertainment Venue. |
At least that money goes back to the community. Just saying I'll leave it at that due to sight rules
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| Blagasse67 wrote: | | green4gulf wrote: | | I love the way the Upgrades look and I have No Doubt they would improve the Stadium.....However I can't agree with EVER having tax dollars go towards an NFL Stadium......it just flat out disgusts me. It's just ridiculous in this day and age that a tax increase is even an option to improve an Entertainment Venue. |
At least that money goes back to the community. Just saying I'll leave it at that due to sight rules |
I can't agree that any money goes back to the community. Perhaps money goes back to Hotels and Restaraunts for an 8 measly home games a year, but I don't buy into that upgrading Stadiums helps Community / Area Economy......I do buy into the Politicians giving favors to interest groups, like wealthy and powerful NFL Owners.....simple quid pro quo IMO. |
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| green4gulf wrote: | | Blagasse67 wrote: | | green4gulf wrote: | | I love the way the Upgrades look and I have No Doubt they would improve the Stadium.....However I can't agree with EVER having tax dollars go towards an NFL Stadium......it just flat out disgusts me. It's just ridiculous in this day and age that a tax increase is even an option to improve an Entertainment Venue. |
At least that money goes back to the community. Just saying I'll leave it at that due to sight rules |
I can't agree that any money goes back to the community. Perhaps money goes back to Hotels and Restaraunts for an 8 measly home games a year, but I don't buy into that upgrading Stadiums helps Community / Area Economy......I do buy into the Politicians giving favors to interest groups, like wealthy and powerful NFL Owners.....simple quid pro quo IMO. |
With the upgrades and the events that they want to bring it can help build the community and economy their in Miami. The more big events come the more people come in and buy from local vendors. I would have agreed with you until here locally we raised the tax to help our arena and we have gotten more events and they have put more into the area
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| Jaytotha wrote: | | green4gulf wrote: | | Blagasse67 wrote: | | green4gulf wrote: | | I love the way the Upgrades look and I have No Doubt they would improve the Stadium.....However I can't agree with EVER having tax dollars go towards an NFL Stadium......it just flat out disgusts me. It's just ridiculous in this day and age that a tax increase is even an option to improve an Entertainment Venue. |
At least that money goes back to the community. Just saying I'll leave it at that due to sight rules |
I can't agree that any money goes back to the community. Perhaps money goes back to Hotels and Restaraunts for an 8 measly home games a year, but I don't buy into that upgrading Stadiums helps Community / Area Economy......I do buy into the Politicians giving favors to interest groups, like wealthy and powerful NFL Owners.....simple quid pro quo IMO. |
With the upgrades and the events that they want to bring it can help build the community and economy their in Miami. The more big events come the more people come in and buy from local vendors. I would have agreed with you until here locally we raised the tax to help our arena and we have gotten more events and they have put more into the area |
So they raised taxes on something locally, and as a resident of the area you paid more, and after you helped the Arena......How much money did you get back?
Some Vendors, Restaraunts, and Hotels may have a boost for 10-15 weekends, and then how much of that boost was due to the stadium improvements........Besides, these days most of these type of businesses are Corporates, not like Mom and Pops Diner is raking in the bucks on the home games and then distributing that money throughout the Community.
I'm not a very liberal person, but after several combat tours and 21 years of service........I ain't drinking the Kool Aide anymore. Believe what you want, but I know BS when I see it.
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