DC possibilties for the Browns..

[mkk]

one of the best 3-4 dc of all time is bill belichek and they now run a base 4-3. one of those reasons is that so many other teams are running the 3-4 and limiting an already shallow pool of potential players that can fit this. if they stay in a 4-3 chuds success rate goes up with right dc, if they switch all bets are off.

[bruceb]

I seem to recall hearing Mel Tucker's name being thrown around.
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[nugpimpen]

[bulldog]

I think there's to many people generalizing the concept of the 34 too much.

At the moment, the browns run a 2 gap 43 system same system BAL used back in 2000.

If they make a switch, then its to either a 1 gap, or a 2 gap 34.

Most agree on here that we have the DL to make it work, but not the LBers. Most also agree the LBers are the heart of the 34.

Most 1 gap systems around the league (HOU, SF..) have great penatrating DEs. SF has an amazing group of LBers, HOUs are very good as well, but not mind blowing. GB also runs this system, but with little help on the DL, but a few stars at LB, and they struggle a bit.

The 2 gap, the DEs are more responsible. Stay at home and control, try to keep lbers clean. I'm not sure who all runs a 2 gap system other than KC last year. NE ran it best a few years ago, but with 3 all pro DL and a bunch of journymen at LB. McGinest I think was a first rounder, but he was never great.

My point? If we swith too a 1 gap, we have the DL for it. Its an easier position to play. This whole its gonna be hard to find the talent thing doesn't make any sense. its harder to find the 2 gap DE. Not a 1 gap.
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[fsubrowns9510]

[sdrawkcab321]

Is Mel tucker any good ? I don't remember him doing much here and the people on the jax forum don't seem to like him

[ditchdigger]

[Productiondawg]

[Estonianzulu]

[fsubrowns9510]

Tucker was only a DB coach here.

Jax fans probably don't like him because their d blows.

He ran a 4-3 in Jax fyi
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[Entropy]

I think the DC hire will be critical to the future success of the Browns. For over a decade we fielded teams with significantly less talent than the league average. We had spurts where the defense played well and the offense made it not matter, and vice-versa.

This is the first time, since the return of the Browns in 1999, that we have had significant talent on both offense and defense. The offensive players were scouted and drafted to play an attacking style of offense, so the vertical game is simply complimentary to their abilities.

However, the defensive front 7 players were scouted and drafted to play a four man defensive front where the DTs keep the MLB clean for run support and provide interior situational pass rush, the DEs provide the majority of the pass rush and outside contain, LBs were drafted to primarily play run support and play TEs and RBs in coverage.

The base 3-4 asks the three man line to keep all 4 LBs clean so the LBs can run the show by tackling runners, covering receivers, and rushing the passer.

So, where does our current front 7 stand right now? Well, they're only the best run defenders and pass rushers we've had since 1999 and our front 7 players are pretty young. Sure, maybe there were a few more sacks in the past, but we probably gave up 4.6 yards per run. Maybe we did slightly better against the run, but had fewer sacks. It's even possible that we did a little better against the run and with sacks (I don't think this happened) but gave up more points.

So yeah, we've had some bad defenses, but they weren't all horrible.

In 2001, the defense allowed 19.9 PPG. They had 43 sacks and allowed 4.5 yards per carry. But the offense stunk (17.8 PPG) and we finished 7-9.

In 2002, the defense was good enough to rank #10 in PPG (20.0). They allowed 4.3 yards per carry and had only 27 sacks. They helped us get to the playoffs, but then gave up 3 fourth quarter TDs (2 to Tommy Maddox and a rushing TD to Chris Fumatoomameelaafoolaa’ooooeeeoooahhahhhtingtangwallawallabingbang).

In 2003, they allowed 20.1 PPG. They had 34 sacks and gave up 4.6 yards per carry. But the offense stunk (15.9 PPG) and we finished 5-11.

So, in 2007, we get a good year from the offense, but the defense allowed 23.9 PPG, gave up 4.5 yards per carry and only had 28 sacks.

So here we are, with an offense that has players that can score as many points as we ever have scored and a defense that allowed 23 PPG, gave up 4.2 yards per carry and had 37 sacks. The team is young, they are on the rise. Let’s get the right DC and make the jump back to good.
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[ditchdigger]

[bulldog]

[bulldog]

Mel Tucker would take Haden to new heights.

Guy works magic with DBs.
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[Entropy]