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ShineOnStar


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused. Why do we need another DT? We have like 90. Are most of them better fits in a 3-4?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShineOnStar wrote:
I'm confused. Why do we need another DT? We have like 90. Are most of them better fits in a 3-4?


We don't really have a guy capable of plugging holes as the 'NT' in the new scheme. Hatcher sounds like he's going to excel at the UT role.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desperado82 wrote:
ShineOnStar wrote:
I'm confused. Why do we need another DT? We have like 90. Are most of them better fits in a 3-4?


We don't really have a guy capable of plugging holes as the 'NT' in the new scheme. Hatcher sounds like he's going to excel at the UT role.


Spears needs to play the 1 or 0 tech. We just don't have any superb penetrators. There aren't any Sapps in the draft either. I think Floyd would be tailor made for this d.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desperado82 wrote:
ShineOnStar wrote:
I'm confused. Why do we need another DT? We have like 90. Are most of them better fits in a 3-4?


We don't really have a guy capable of plugging holes as the 'NT' in the new scheme. Hatcher sounds like he's going to excel at the UT role.


They want Ratliff to play the 1.


Interestingly enough - I just read that Ryan had Ratliff 2 gapping the last 2 years. That is a terminable offense in and of itself. d'oh!

If Ratliff to play the 1, they want him to shoot the gap. Think back to Phillps days. From what I read, Ware, Hatch and Rat will all shoot gaps every play... according to Lacewell anyways.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Rtnldave"]I don't know where to begin just yet. I will have to do some digging on this one. However, I would be wide open to the options of trading some of our underachieving veteran players for extra picks at this point ie: Austin for 3rd or 4th, Ratliff for a 5th or 6th, Spears for the same. We could package those picks and move up to get an extra 3rd or 4th. Then we could draft either:

1st: C. warmack OG Ala or B. Jones C/G Ala
2nd: S. Richardson DT Mizz or S. Williams DT N. Car.
3rd a: W. Sutton DE Ariz ST or D. Jones DE UCLA
3rd b (Austin) B Williams OT N. Car or Oday Aboushi OT Virg
4th a P. Thomas S Fresno St
4th b (package a 5th & 6th) M. Davis WR Virg Tech or K Stills WR Okla.
5th Z Dysert QB Mia OH
6th J Madsen C West Virg


I would also look at OG L. Vasquez and RB S. Greene as FA.

Restructure: Romo, Ware, Carr

Let walk or cut:
Spencer
Jenkins
Jones
Bernaduice
Free
Poppinga

to name a few
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Football Mensa wrote:
Desperado82 wrote:
ShineOnStar wrote:
I'm confused. Why do we need another DT? We have like 90. Are most of them better fits in a 3-4?


We don't really have a guy capable of plugging holes as the 'NT' in the new scheme. Hatcher sounds like he's going to excel at the UT role.


Spears needs to play the 1 or 0 tech. We just have any superb penetrators. There aren't any Sapps in the draft either. I think Floyd would be tailor made for this d.


I'd love to have Floyd here.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: Free Agency / Draft Prospects III Reply with quote

textaz03 wrote:
With the hiring of Monte Kiffin as our DC and the switching from a 3-4 defense back to the 4-3 defense and its many different looks and coverages that go with it. It appears that our offseason needs have changed drastically. So, lets start up a new thread here for our new needs, instead of a 55 page thread of our old needs.

So, what are we looking at?

Pass Rush Defensive Tackle?
Defensive End?
Free Safety?
Offensive Tackle?
Offensive Guard?
Quarterback (to groom)?

How would you rank in order of precedence?

Who are the free agents that fit those needs?

What draft prospects you like that fit those needs?


Tackle - Free is not a tackle he is maybe aguard but he had a horrible year we need a bookend tackle to team with Tyron

Defensive end - spencer is gone we need a pass rusher opposite ware for the scheme to work

interior OL - we need at least one new guard and maybe a center if possible.

free safety - Johnson is an unknown, church is more of an ss and coming off Injury, sensabaugh is for the most part not very good.

pass rush DT - If Ratliff is gone this goes way up, Crawford is good and I think can be a starter at DT, we could use either a starter or young guy who can rush the passer
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desperado82 wrote:
Football Mensa wrote:
Desperado82 wrote:
ShineOnStar wrote:
I'm confused. Why do we need another DT? We have like 90. Are most of them better fits in a 3-4?


We don't really have a guy capable of plugging holes as the 'NT' in the new scheme. Hatcher sounds like he's going to excel at the UT role.


Spears needs to play the 1 or 0 tech. We just have any superb penetrators. There aren't any Sapps in the draft either. I think Floyd would be tailor made for this d.


I'd love to have Floyd here.


Desperado we need someone like Floyd. If Rat plays the 1 he will still get double teamed in the run game. He is broken down from all the years of playing nt. Floyd could bring youth and energy to the 1 tech. Spears is better suited for the 1 tech on running downs. I do think Hatch will be a good 3 tech.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dallas Needs - OG, DE, DT, S, CB, OLB, OT, WR

Retructure Contracts
Tony Romo
Brandon Carr
Miles Austin
Demarcus Ware

Cut
Doug Free

Re-sign
Anthony Spencer

Sign
Andre Smith OT Cincinnati

Draft
1st - Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU
2nd - Travis Frederick C Wisconsin
3rd - Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M
4th - TJ McDonald S USC
5th - Kenjon Barner RB Oregon
6th - Michael Williams TE Alabama
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Interior OL
2. Right Tackle
3. Free Safety
4. Defensive Tackle
5. Power RB
6. QB to groom
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if we picked up Justin Durant out of Lions to play SAM LB. He's a young FA and Lions are going to have a hard time retaining all of their FA's
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emmittsmith22 wrote:
What if we picked up Justin Durant out of Lions to play SAM LB. He's a young FA and Lions are going to have a hard time retaining all of their FA's


I think Albright or Wilber can fill the spot just fine. Don't really see the need to bring in a free agent to start at that position.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One person's thoughts on what our draft may look like

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/1/11/3866910/the-theme-of-the-cowboys-2013-nfl-draft-great-players-on-small-bad-or
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desperado82 wrote:
One person's thoughts on what our draft may look like

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/1/11/3866910/the-theme-of-the-cowboys-2013-nfl-draft-great-players-on-small-bad-or


Very meh. Barrett Jones is really the only pick I like. Gabe Jackson is going back to school also. And I think thats way too early for Jamie Collins.
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flyingmonkey30 wrote:
I would imagine that Henry Melton will be tagged if not extended as well, though it would be crazy if we could get him
Dunno if he'll be tagged or not, but if he's not at all dead set on staying in Chicago, especially now that Lovie is gone. We played ball together in HS and I still keep in touch with him and his mom. Needless to say coming back home to play is something both would be interested in.
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