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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Guys!!!!!! Can't wait to get back to C-Town!!!!!




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Hi Guys!!!!!! Can't wait to get back to C-Town!!!!!





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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remember that we missed Haden for 4 and Taylor for 8. Also were without Gocong and had much rookie play.

The defense is very promising, that's why I don't want to get away from it.
What teams in the NFL stayed 100% healthy this year? Looking at the entire league, our D was probably top 10 in health.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bungleodeon wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
remember that we missed Haden for 4 and Taylor for 8. Also were without Gocong and had much rookie play.

The defense is very promising, that's why I don't want to get away from it.
What teams in the NFL stayed 100% healthy this year? Looking at the entire league, our D was probably top 10 in health.


And youth


I'm just saying that the promise of young defenders is there.

I believe changing schemes will slow their growth.
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nugpimpen wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
remember that we missed Haden for 4 and Taylor for 8. Also were without Gocong and had much rookie play.

The defense is very promising, that's why I don't want to get away from it.
What teams in the NFL stayed 100% healthy this year? Looking at the entire league, our D was probably top 10 in health.


And youth


I'm just saying that the promise of young defenders is there.

I believe changing schemes will slow their growth.


spot on, with the youth we have I would like to stay with the 4-3

I just read on ESPN their opinion on what our front would be in a 30 front:
DE: Phil NT: Rubin DE: Winn/ Frostee
OLB: Sheard ILB DQ & Gocong OLB: ?? draft pick/ FA

the writer's point was that we would still have a hole at OLB or DE in a odd or even front...

HOWEVER really looking at it, DQ was pretty bad in the 3-4, I think Gocong is best as a SAM in a even look- and we really don't know much about sheard as a pure OLB- sure he stood up a few times but I feel he is more of a DE--

Basically with a second lookI don't like any of our linebackers-to-be in the 30. Plus winn/frostee may not be the best base ends....

PLEASE PLEASE let us stay in the 4-3 at most a hybrid type...
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HOWEVER really looking at it, DQ was pretty bad in the 3-4
No he wasn't.
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MaryKayCabot: #Browns' Banner on Chud's role in personnel decisions: "He won't just be involved, he'll dictate that.''

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I like this. If there is a player Chud wants he can try to acquire him with no questions asked. Talk about doing everything in your power to make sure a guy will succeed
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FLAbrownfan wrote:


HOWEVER really looking at it, DQ was pretty bad in the 3-4
No he wasn't.


Everyone else around him was bad.
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MaryKayCabot: #Browns' Banner on Chud's role in personnel decisions: "He won't just be involved, he'll dictate that.''

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I like this. If there is a player Chud wants he can try to acquire him with no questions asked. Talk about doing everything in your power to make sure a guy will succeed
On one hand I like it because of the reasons you mentioned, but on the other hand, there isn't any evidence that Chud is any good at this type of thing.
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TeHDruiD wrote:
MaryKayCabot: #Browns' Banner on Chud's role in personnel decisions: "He won't just be involved, he'll dictate that.''

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I like this. If there is a player Chud wants he can try to acquire him with no questions asked. Talk about doing everything in your power to make sure a guy will succeed


Does he mean personnel as in players, or oaches?

I'm guessing he meant coaches.
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bulldog wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
FLAbrownfan wrote:


HOWEVER really looking at it, DQ was pretty bad in the 3-4
No he wasn't.


Everyone else around him was bad.
Plus, I mean, his 2nd year he showed he was something to be excited about and his 3rd year was either his best or 2nd best season in terms of production. IMO, 2008, 2011, and 2012 DQ was about the same player.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
MaryKayCabot: #Browns' Banner on Chud's role in personnel decisions: "He won't just be involved, he'll dictate that.''

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I like this. If there is a player Chud wants he can try to acquire him with no questions asked. Talk about doing everything in your power to make sure a guy will succeed


Does he mean personnel as in players, or oaches?

I'm guessing he meant coaches.


I think both honestly. He'll assume the GM role is my guess (like Banner did with Reid in Philly) with the GM being nothing more than a glorified scout


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bulldog wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
MaryKayCabot: #Browns' Banner on Chud's role in personnel decisions: "He won't just be involved, he'll dictate that.''

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I like this. If there is a player Chud wants he can try to acquire him with no questions asked. Talk about doing everything in your power to make sure a guy will succeed


Does he mean personnel as in players, or oaches?

I'm guessing he meant coaches.
I kind of hope so, but with that being said, I'm not going to be upset if he gets free rein on player acquisition.
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With Chud's vertical offense philosophy being implemented, does this put the browns in the market for a premier WR to pair with Gordon? Cuz I'm not impressed with Little.

Greg Jennings or Mike Wallace?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bungleodeon wrote:
bulldog wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
FLAbrownfan wrote:


HOWEVER really looking at it, DQ was pretty bad in the 3-4
No he wasn't.


Everyone else around him was bad.
Plus, I mean, his 2nd year he showed he was something to be excited about and his 3rd year was either his best or 2nd best season in terms of production. IMO, 2008, 2011, and 2012 DQ was about the same player.


I agree (whats happening today???)

Jackson needs to play a true Will inside, like navaro bowman. We finally have a true mike in Gocong or JMJ, which Jackson has never had. That alone would make a huge difference.
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