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BocaRatonBrown1


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:21 pm    Post subject: Everyone has to have one! Reply with quote

HC John Gruden
OC Josh McDaniels
DC Monte Kiffin

Cap to play $48m 2nd in the NFL

Resign
Josh Cribbs $4m
Phil Dawson $3m

-$7m
$41m

Release
Chris Gocong <$4.8m 2013>
Usama Young <$2.8m 2013>
Frostee Rucker <$2.5m 2013>

+$10m
$51m

Free Agents
Jared Cook TE $8m 5y <top 5 TE Money>
Andre Smith RG $5m 5y <Winston Contract 4y $22m RT - Dre to play RG>
Andy Levitre LG $5m 5y <rookie deal was 4y $3.56m>
Mike Wallace WR $10m 5y <essentially DeSean Jackson contract>

-$28m
$23m

Trades
Colt McCoy for 7th -$1.5m
$24.5m

#6 pick 1,600 to NY Jets #9 1350 & #39 510 1860-1600 +260 pt trade

Why? Geno Smith

#9 pick 1350 to Pittsburgh #17 950 & #47 430 1380-1350 +30 pt trade

Why Star Lotulelei

#17 950 to New England #32 590 #64 270 860-950 -60pt trade

Why Chance Warmack

Pick #32, #39, #47, #64, #68, #101, #132, #164, & 2 7ths

Recap #6 for #32, 39, 47, 64 "with in range"

#32 DB Xavier Rhodes $3m
#39 SAM Nico Johnson $2m
#47 DE Alex Okafor $2m
#64 FS Tony Jefferson $1m
#68 QB Tyler Bray $1m
#101 OLB Sean Porter $1m
#132 TE Michael Williams $750k
#164 DB Tyrann Mathieu $500k
#7tha RE Quinton Dial $500k
#7thb LE William Campbell $500k

-$12m
$12.5m

Offense

WR Mike Wallace, Travis Benjamin, Josh Cooper
TE Jared Cook, Jordan Cameron, Michael Williams
LT Joe Thomas, UDFA/7th
LG Andy Levitre, John Greco
C Alex Mack
RG Andre Smith
RT Mitchell Schwartz, Ryan Miller
WR Josh Gordon, Gregg Little, Josh Cribbs
QB Brandon Weeden, Tyler Bray, Thad Lewis
FB Owen Marecic, Brad Smelley
RB Trent Richardson, Montario Hardesty

Defense

LDE Jabaal Sheard, William Campbell
LDT Ahtyba Rubin, John Hughes
RDT Phillip Taylor, Billy Winn, Ishmaa'ily Kitchen
RDE Alex Okafor, Quinton Dial
WLB Sean Porter, Craig Robertson
MLB D'Qwell Jackson, LJ Fort
SLB Nico Johnson, James-Michael Johnson, Emanual Acho
CB Joe Haden, Buster Skrine, Trevin Wade
SS T.J. Ward, UDFA/7th
FS Tony Jefferson, UDFA/7TH
CB Xavier Rhodes, Tyrann Mathieu

$12.5m left over <<double down front end bonus the extensions of Mack & Ward to eat up this remaining cap so it is available for 2014>>
Mack $6m
TJ Ward $6m

2014 Cap will have about $10m going into the draft
We have huge contracts coming off the board with DQ 2015 & Ahtyba 2014 <$16m>

Going into Camp if all this happened I would seriously consider QB position especially the following scenarios

Alex Smith for 2015 1st or 2014 2nd

Would also heavily consider...

Mike Vick if he is released
Matt Flynn if he is released

Also Jarvis Jones could fall all the way to mid 2nd round. He has the same issue Marcus McNiel had spinal stenosis.

This mock with Jarvis Jones for our 2014 1st & 2nd would really finish the touch. 2014 looks to be the weakest draft in 10 years...

Browns go 19-0 2013!!!

Atleast in my Madden franchise Wink

Cant wait to see what Haslam & Banner does with all the options we have & the facts are facts. Steelers & Raven are on serious decline


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nugpimpen


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally forgot about Jared Cook.

Dude would be a good signing for us.

Maybe great signing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a whole lot of fail.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
That is a hole lot of fail.


Stuff it. Upgrades all over & u call it fail...

Its just a mock & we know little if any of this will happen..

ID prefer to trade every pick in this draft for Carson Palmer & extend Buster Skrine to huge mega contract & resign Sheldon Brown to the highest paid contract ever for a DB..

now that would be fail
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. You don't cut solid starters to save a few pennies. Frostee Rucker at his worst is a GREAT #3 DE. Chris Gocong is a great run stopper and if he is no the same after the injury you cut him then and only then. We have plenty of cap room so you keep him around to compete.

2. You are cutting depth just to save money. Usama Young is horrible but for depth in this league it gets a lot worse and like I said we have the money.

3. John Gruden is not even an option and Josh McDaniels cannot move laterly. He has also stated he will not leave NE for a HC job.

4. Joshua Cribbs is old and washed up. Return specialist don't get new contracts over the age of 30. Benjamin could have done better this year.

5. Jared Cook Top 5 TE money? Is that a joke? The guy is a head case and inconsistant on his best days.

6. 70 Million on guards?

7. Star never falls that far and your trades are unrealistic at best.

8. Draft

Xavier Rhodes can deliever a big hit but he cannot tackle worth a lick. I do like him because he reminds me of Merton Hanks.

Jackson Jeffcoat has already stated he is going back to Texas

Alex Okafor is far from the explosive pass rusher we need and is a huge down grade against the run fron Frostee Rucker.

Tyler Bray is the inconsistant and inaccurate headcase the was Derek Anderson combined with the whinny attitude and horrible leadership of Phillip Rivers.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Rucker started slow this year, but he finished strong. Don't understand why we would cut him and Gocong. Especially when you didn't even find an upgrade for Gocong and if we had a better pass rushing DE, I could see Rucker getting a chance to spell both RDE and LDE, making our D-line rotation extremely strong.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Everyone has to have one! Reply with quote

BocaRatonBrown1 wrote:
Atleast in my Madden franchise Wink


At least you're honest.
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BocaRatonBrown1


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. You don't cut solid starters to save a few pennies. Frostee Rucker at his worst is a GREAT #3 DE. Chris Gocong is a great run stopper and if he is no the same after the injury you cut him then and only then. We have plenty of cap room so you keep him around to compete.

Agreed but at the same time Gocong is not going to improve & with his $5m+ sticker he can go as far as I am concerned. Usama is nothing special & DE who are good against the run are cheap.

2. You are cutting depth just to save money. Usama Young is horrible but for depth in this league it gets a lot worse and like I said we have the money.

huge FS/SS draft class this year with guys who have much higher cielings IMO. Usama is quick but he just never makes enough plays on the ball & is suspect all around

3. John Gruden is not even an option and Josh McDaniels cannot move laterly. He has also stated he will not leave NE for a HC job.

he would leave for money IMO & this is not a realistic mock

4. Joshua Cribbs is old and washed up. Return specialist don't get new contracts over the age of 30. Benjamin could have done better this year.

he still has good #s & yes Benjamin looks very good

5. Jared Cook Top 5 TE money? Is that a joke? The guy is a head case and inconsistant on his best days.

no he is a beast & just as capable as Vernon Davis. He has the same gifts anyways

6. 70 Million on guards?

you do realize this is a mock?

7. Star never falls that far and your trades are unrealistic at best.

wrong & wrong. every year somebody falls. Star is not even as good as Haloti Ngata & he went #13 you know the year we traded with Ravens? My points are nearly tit for tat. We traded down before in the 1st twice so this is just one more time. Maybe you forget the year we traded down twice & picked up 2 2nds?

8. Draft

Xavier Rhodes can deliever a big hit but he cannot tackle worth a lick. I do like him because he reminds me of Merton Hanks.

Jackson Jeffcoat has already stated he is going back to Texas

your right on this

Alex Okafor is far from the explosive pass rusher we need and is a huge down grade against the run fron Frostee Rucker.

I like Frostee Rucker. I been high on him all year. If he can get his sack total up to 6+ & maintain the level of play against the run he will be a very good 2 down RE

Tyler Bray is the inconsistant and inaccurate headcase the was Derek Anderson combined with the whinny attitude and horrible leadership of Phillip Rivers.

I go back and forth between him Logan Thomas & Landry Jones


The real off season is going to be like this...

HC "enter name" second fiddle we blew it already with Kelly. We could get lucky here & I really think we have the best roster & over best position for a HC to move into.

1 FA top tier names not 4

Draft
#6 Geno Smith or Matt Barkley
The rest will be BPA
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BocaRatonBrown1 wrote:
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DE who are good against the run are cheap.
And yet you didn't get one after cutting one of the better ones in the NFL who was only set to make $2.5m next season. Rucker was easily the most underrated guy on the D last year and was great at setting the edge. Cutting him to be replaced with a 2nd round rookie would be a huge mistake. That plus cutting gocong = Ray Rice destroying the defense on outside runs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmk wrote:
BocaRatonBrown1 wrote:
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DE who are good against the run are cheap.
And yet you didn't get one after cutting one of the better ones in the NFL who was only set to make $2.5m next season. Rucker was easily the most underrated guy on the D last year and was great at setting the edge. Cutting him to be replaced with a 2nd round rookie would be a huge mistake. That plus cutting gocong = Ray Rice destroying the defense on outside runs.


I like to give snaps to Billy Winn to save my butt there. Good point & my 2 7ths plus ADFA & or a lower priced guy in the FA market & or just keeping Frostee. His salary is only $2.8m...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sacrificing talent to save money when we already have the world to spend is just stupid no matter how you spin it. Quit digging deeper and admitt this needs serious work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just realized we trade star to Pitt. F that crap
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mack handles big guys well. Star to Steelers for 1st & 2nd is also taking away from them there 2nd rounder. I take this all day.

First off if your going to disagree just disagree. Don't just make up stuff that has no bearing or has zero factual proof. There is no other combination of players to upgrade at with this draft & FA market. I made major upgrades at every position other than QB while keeping the cap at $10m with those players & salaries.

But either way it makes no difference. I am probably not factoring in easily $5-10m in dead money. Plus this mock is totally un-realistic.

Id be happy with 2 FA with solid talent & 2 in the draft plus some depth guys with upside keeping the team intact. No way are we dumping Frostee, Usama, & getting all those trades. No way are we getting 4 big names.
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