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HDsportsfan
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| plan9misfit wrote: | Jerry is indeed pushing Garrett to give up play calling duties. As I said, Garrett spoke out of both sides of his mouth when he said he wasn't going to do it. Here's the link...from TODAY:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/mort-jones-is-pushing-garrett-to-give-up-play-calling-duties/
| Quote: | According to Chris Mortensen of ESPN, owner Jerry Jones is pushing coach Jason Garrett to relinquish play-calling duties. Per Mort, Jones also may be trying to get Garrett to fire his brother, tight ends coach John Garrett.
Mort says John Garrett is calling around the league regarding other available jobs. Which could indeed means that John Garrett fears his brother will fire him.
It also could mean that the Princeton-educated Garretts sense that Jones is trying to provoke a showdown that will result in Jason Garrett leaving as the head coach without Jones flat-out firing him. |
Matts, this was the issue I was talking about the other day. I just can't/don't trust Garrett at his word because we don't know what his position on things really is. He's like a politician and says anything to make anyone who is listening happy. |
If JJ doesn't want Redball then he should just fire him. Otherwise that is the dumbest freaking way to address that I've ever seen. To keeping waiting is just ignorant. The longer we wiat the fewer options we have. Unless we look at someone that is still in the playoffs.
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| plan9misfit wrote: | Jerry is indeed pushing Garrett to give up play calling duties. As I said, Garrett spoke out of both sides of his mouth when he said he wasn't going to do it. Here's the link...from TODAY:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/mort-jones-is-pushing-garrett-to-give-up-play-calling-duties/
| Quote: | According to Chris Mortensen of ESPN, owner Jerry Jones is pushing coach Jason Garrett to relinquish play-calling duties. Per Mort, Jones also may be trying to get Garrett to fire his brother, tight ends coach John Garrett.
Mort says John Garrett is calling around the league regarding other available jobs. Which could indeed means that John Garrett fears his brother will fire him.
It also could mean that the Princeton-educated Garretts sense that Jones is trying to provoke a showdown that will result in Jason Garrett leaving as the head coach without Jones flat-out firing him. |
Matts, this was the issue I was talking about the other day. I just can't/don't trust Garrett at his word because we don't know what his position on things really is. He's like a politician and says anything to make anyone who is listening happy. |
Couldn't agree more Plan. Garrett has put himself into question 1 because of bad to mediocre coaching and 2 not taking accountability.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| plan9misfit wrote: | Jerry is indeed pushing Garrett to give up play calling duties. As I said, Garrett spoke out of both sides of his mouth when he said he wasn't going to do it. Here's the link...from TODAY:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/mort-jones-is-pushing-garrett-to-give-up-play-calling-duties/
| Quote: | According to Chris Mortensen of ESPN, owner Jerry Jones is pushing coach Jason Garrett to relinquish play-calling duties. Per Mort, Jones also may be trying to get Garrett to fire his brother, tight ends coach John Garrett.
Mort says John Garrett is calling around the league regarding other available jobs. Which could indeed means that John Garrett fears his brother will fire him.
It also could mean that the Princeton-educated Garretts sense that Jones is trying to provoke a showdown that will result in Jason Garrett leaving as the head coach without Jones flat-out firing him. |
Matts, this was the issue I was talking about the other day. I just can't/don't trust Garrett at his word because we don't know what his position on things really is. He's like a politician and says anything to make anyone who is listening happy. |
I read the article the other day. I chose not to post it because I thought it was an attempt at sports "yellow" journalism. I think we have all known that Garrett/Jones have had conversations about bringing in a play caller. There has been at least ~25 articles in the last 18 months on that topic.
But in typical Mike Florio fashion, he turns that into trying to get Garrett to quit, so that Jones can save face and hire Kiffin. 
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Props go to WH for finding these articles:
| Quote: | Myth No. 1: Jerry Jones loves drafting skill position players.
In the first three rounds of the draft from 1991-2011, the Cowboys spent only 16.1% of their draft picks on skill position players. This is the lowest value in the league.
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Myth #3: The Cowboys have neglected drafting linemen.
In fact, as Tony Violetti also shows, the Cowboys spent 34, or 20%, of their 170 draft picks between 1992 and 2011 on offensive lineman. That percentage is the highest of any team in the league. The Cowboys may not have been particularly good at picking linemen, or they may have let a couple of good ones slip through their fingers, but they did draft more than any other team.
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Myth # 5: The Cowboys love drafting players from Texas
In their 51-year franchise history, the Cowboys have not shown a propensity for drafting players out of Texas-based programs. In fact, of the top ten schools as ranked ny number of Cowboys draft picks, only two are from Texas
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/1/9/2686828/dallas-cowboys-draft-myths-debunked |
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I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but there is a lot of buzz on Twitter about Sparano likely joining the Cowboys staff. Perhaps as TE coach.
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I've definitely argued in the past that Jerry "neglecting" the offensive line is serious forum-fiction- rather, it's that the team's investments haven't paid off. Nice to be backed up by the stats. Felix being the only Arkansas player is pretty interesting, too. The rest of the article doesn't do much for me.
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| Nextyearfordaboyz wrote: | | I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but there is a lot of buzz on Twitter about Sparano likely joining the Cowboys staff. Perhaps as TE coach. |
Really? Who do you follow over there? I see nothing. TE coach seems like a strange fit. I would figure OL or some OC capacity.
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| Nextyearfordaboyz wrote: | | I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but there is a lot of buzz on Twitter about Sparano likely joining the Cowboys staff. Perhaps as TE coach. |
TE coach and Passing game Coordinator would be interesting (same as John Garretts role).
I still am interested in who will be the play caller.
Do we go back to the 07 system? Sparano gives RG suggestions for calls to play?
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| WizardHawk wrote: | | Nextyearfordaboyz wrote: | | I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but there is a lot of buzz on Twitter about Sparano likely joining the Cowboys staff. Perhaps as TE coach. |
Really? Who do you follow over there? I see nothing. TE coach seems like a strange fit. I would figure OL or some OC capacity. |
He was our TE coach and assistant HC under Parcells.
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| Nextyearfordaboyz wrote: | | I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but there is a lot of buzz on Twitter about Sparano likely joining the Cowboys staff. Perhaps as TE coach. |
From a HC to an OC and then to a possible TE coach. I'm not sure what that means if anything, just find it interesting. Of course the Jets effort was hopeless to begin with.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Matts4313 wrote: | Props go to WH for finding these articles:
| Quote: | Myth No. 1: Jerry Jones loves drafting skill position players.
In the first three rounds of the draft from 1991-2011, the Cowboys spent only 16.1% of their draft picks on skill position players. This is the lowest value in the league.
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Myth #3: The Cowboys have neglected drafting linemen.
In fact, as Tony Violetti also shows, the Cowboys spent 34, or 20%, of their 170 draft picks between 1992 and 2011 on offensive lineman. That percentage is the highest of any team in the league. The Cowboys may not have been particularly good at picking linemen, or they may have let a couple of good ones slip through their fingers, but they did draft more than any other team.
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Myth # 5: The Cowboys love drafting players from Texas
In their 51-year franchise history, the Cowboys have not shown a propensity for drafting players out of Texas-based programs. In fact, of the top ten schools as ranked ny number of Cowboys draft picks, only two are from Texas
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/1/9/2686828/dallas-cowboys-draft-myths-debunked |
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| Nextyearfordaboyz wrote: | | I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but there is a lot of buzz on Twitter about Sparano likely joining the Cowboys staff. Perhaps as TE coach. |
Awesome! I want Sparano to help with the play-calling, and also help bring in Jake Long.  |
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| DKDALfan wrote: | | Matts4313 wrote: | Props go to WH for finding these articles:
| Quote: | Myth No. 1: Jerry Jones loves drafting skill position players.
In the first three rounds of the draft from 1991-2011, the Cowboys spent only 16.1% of their draft picks on skill position players. This is the lowest value in the league.
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Myth #3: The Cowboys have neglected drafting linemen.
In fact, as Tony Violetti also shows, the Cowboys spent 34, or 20%, of their 170 draft picks between 1992 and 2011 on offensive lineman. That percentage is the highest of any team in the league. The Cowboys may not have been particularly good at picking linemen, or they may have let a couple of good ones slip through their fingers, but they did draft more than any other team.
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Myth # 5: The Cowboys love drafting players from Texas
In their 51-year franchise history, the Cowboys have not shown a propensity for drafting players out of Texas-based programs. In fact, of the top ten schools as ranked ny number of Cowboys draft picks, only two are from Texas
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/1/9/2686828/dallas-cowboys-draft-myths-debunked |
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Great find, WH. |
All the FACTS right there but someone will say its not true  we've heard it before so many times Looks like Matty Ice is gonna get the win. I rather see Atl then SF in Superbowl |
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Nextyearfordaboyz
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| Matts4313 wrote: | | WizardHawk wrote: | | Nextyearfordaboyz wrote: | | I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but there is a lot of buzz on Twitter about Sparano likely joining the Cowboys staff. Perhaps as TE coach. |
Really? Who do you follow over there? I see nothing. TE coach seems like a strange fit. I would figure OL or some OC capacity. |
He was our TE coach and assistant HC under Parcells. |
I don't remember who said it. I would have posted it, but I saw it on my phone while I was out of the house.
Also saw that it's not a lock. Apparently Sparano will be interviewing with Reid in KC.
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| PincheJimmy wrote: | | DKDALfan wrote: | | Matts4313 wrote: | Props go to WH for finding these articles:
| Quote: | Myth No. 1: Jerry Jones loves drafting skill position players.
In the first three rounds of the draft from 1991-2011, the Cowboys spent only 16.1% of their draft picks on skill position players. This is the lowest value in the league.
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Myth #3: The Cowboys have neglected drafting linemen.
In fact, as Tony Violetti also shows, the Cowboys spent 34, or 20%, of their 170 draft picks between 1992 and 2011 on offensive lineman. That percentage is the highest of any team in the league. The Cowboys may not have been particularly good at picking linemen, or they may have let a couple of good ones slip through their fingers, but they did draft more than any other team.
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Myth # 5: The Cowboys love drafting players from Texas
In their 51-year franchise history, the Cowboys have not shown a propensity for drafting players out of Texas-based programs. In fact, of the top ten schools as ranked ny number of Cowboys draft picks, only two are from Texas
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/1/9/2686828/dallas-cowboys-draft-myths-debunked |
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Great find, WH. |
All the FACTS right there but someone will say its not true we've heard it before so many times Looks like Matty Ice is gonna get the win. I rather see Atl then SF in Superbowl |
Spoke too soon, Nice job Seattle |
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