Build-a-Mock V1.0

at23steelers · Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States

I think we should vote on these to see whose mock people like the best!

turtle28 · Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject:

I've seen Mingo mocked to the steelers. Possiblity he coukd go to the Jets though at 9. I think he'll go on the teens or 20s at worst, same with his counterpart at LSU Montgomery. I'd be shocked if either go top 10.
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jebrick · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 7125 Location: Indianapolis

The list is really in flux. I did this with the CBSSports list 2 weeks ago and it was different. Montgomery is dropping. Olgetree is dropping. just changes happening.
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SteelProven · Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:01 am Post subject:

Sam Montgomery is to slow off the snap and disappears what to much for my liking.

A player I like is Caleb Schreibeis - DE Montana State
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gatek99 · Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:08 am Post subject:

kurgan · Joined: 04 Jan 2013 Posts: 22

I know that it is flawed, but this is fun. The numbers change all the time as well. I actually scouted this yesterday and now the # are different. This is the first time I have posted on here after years of just reading. Here is what I see as great draft for the Steelers.

1.17--John Jenkins, NT UGA 6'3" 358 (#29)
I think this guy will be a surprise. I know that I have a UGA slant b/c I am a big Bulldogs guy, but this guy is so athletic that when the DE went down, he flipped to play a 5 tech. Huge, Huge, man and knows how to play with leverage and technique.

2.48--Chase Thomas, OLB Stanford 6'4" 248 (#69)
It hurt me not to pick Ogletree here, but I did not want to make a whole UGA draft (more on that later). This guy is amazing. High motor, high football IQ, high character.

3.80--Baccari Rambo, FS UGA 6'0" 210 (#85)
I know, I know. But, fills a huge need and is a great player with a great name. I do not really see him as a Steelers guy since he has had drug issues in the past, but he could be the new #43. I also like Andrew Jackson here (pure thumper) but we got to get the backend better.

4.114--Nico Johnson, ILB Alabama 6'2" 245 (#115)
Gotta get an inside LB presence. Can we go another year with Foote/Sylvester?? This guy can play. He is well coached and can be the man here. I do mock, though, that if we take Jackson at 80, we take a Safety here like Shawn Williams.

5.148--A.J. Klein, ILB Iowa State 6'1" 244 (#171)
Flew up since yesterday. This is my pick that I love. Not many reasons to watch ISU, but this guy is the truth. Straight up killer and thumper that can play special teams and platoon with Johnson to get Timmons back outside.

6.186--Rex Burkhead, RB Nebraska 5'11" 210 (#195)
Fills a need and a quality guy. A powerback that might be a close clone of Dwyer, but with more power and a bit more diverse. I like this pick for football and community reasons. He is the kind of guy that will play for 10 years and be a fan favorite.

7.222--Travis Howard, CB Ohio State 6'0' 196 (#244)
Simple, need corner bodies and backend skill. Howard is a big body that might be a safety eventually but for now can be thrown in the mix. Just a solid player.

7.240--Sean Renfree, QB Duke 6'4" 225 (#292)
Take a flyer on a late QB with great size and obvious smarts. Had a good coach in college (Cutcliff). Will never be the mobile roll-out Big Ben QB, but should be able to eventually come in and not lose games.

So, yeah... there it is. Tear it apart and let me know how it is messed up. I am a defensive guy (DC at the high school I work at) and I am a homer for UGA. I think this addresses all our needs (dont care about WR's). Would like more CB bodies, but I think that we should be OK with what we have here.
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jebrick · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 7125 Location: Indianapolis

MightyJoeYoung · Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject:

Why would you want to move Timmons outisde? If Timmons were to move outside (again, why the hell would you want him to?), Sean Spence would start at the Mack anyway so the second ILB is redundant unless purely for depth purposes which is fine if so.

Also, to answer your question, if someone said Foote will play at the same level next year, yes we can go another year with him. Sylvester isn't even in the picture.

I don't love NT in the 1st, nor do I hate it... but I don't want Jenkins.

The rest is fine.
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kurgan · Joined: 04 Jan 2013 Posts: 22

at23steelers · Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States

@kurgan: You seem to be very knowledgable about what you're talking about. But I'd argue Timmons doesn't have that flexibility. He's not great at shedding blocks and was a horrible OLB when we moved him there last year. It seemed to mess up his confidence when he moved back inside last year too. This year he stuck at ILB like he did in 2010 and played his best football. Why move him to a position he's much worse at?

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kurgan · Joined: 04 Jan 2013 Posts: 22

@23 and fourthree

I totally agree with what you both are saying and there is no way that I am saying that we should straight up move Timmons to OLB. I think that we are just coming from different angles and looking at things in different ways. In the way that football is being played in the modern era, the starting lineup and what gets on the field is sooo different on every level. I know that we love to strategize and plug in players in certain spots, and think that that is where they play most of the time.

As bad as Timmons is at OLB in an everydown scenario, there is no way you all can say that there would not be certain aspects and times that he could come in and play OLB and be a dynamic player. There are certain stunts, twists and packages that LeBeau could come up with that begins with Timmons at OLB. Hell, most of the time on 3rd down we are not even in a 3-4.

I guess, that to me, the idea of "too many athletic linebackers" or "too many BUCK backers" is like saying "Dang, we have too many young cover corners"
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at23steelers · Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States

@Kurgan: Now, in subpackages where we're not in our 3-4 base, he does have slightly different responsibilities. Im just saying in a base 3-4 he should no way line up as an OLB.