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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A league source tells CSN Bay Area it's "no certainty" the 49ers will use the franchise tag on free agent FS Dashon Goldson for the second consecutive offseason.
Keeping Goldson is expected to be a priority for the 49ers, but the sides will continue to negotiate a long-term deal ahead of the March 4 deadline to apply the franchise tag. Coming off arguably the best season of his career, Goldson would be due $7.5 million it tagged for the second straight year.

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A league source tells CSN Bay Area it's "no certainty" the 49ers will use the franchise tag on free agent FS Dashon Goldson for the second consecutive offseason.
Keeping Goldson is expected to be a priority for the 49ers, but the sides will continue to negotiate a long-term deal ahead of the March 4 deadline to apply the franchise tag. Coming off arguably the best season of his career, Goldson would be due $7.5 million it tagged for the second straight year.

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Hey! I feel so cheated! We had to pay 7.7 mil to tag him in FFMD. That's it! I'm making calls to.. er... nah, forget it. Suppose I can scrounge up that chump change underneath the couch cushions.



FRANCHISE TAG PRIMER: PREDICTIONS FOR ALL 32 TEAMS

http://wap.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000139963/franchise-tag-primer-predictions-for-all-32-nfl-teams/

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5. Dashon Goldson, San Francisco 49ers: Coach Jim Harbaugh said the 49ers should "reward" Goldson with a long-term deal. That might come eventually, but we expect the tag to come first (Goldson was also tagged last year).


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KANSAS CITY CHIEFS ----- 2015

Offense -- 45 total players as of 12/20

QB: Alex Smith (15,500,000), Aaron Murray (563,606), Tyler Bray (588,334)
RB: Jamaal Charles (8,033,334), Knile Davis (736,504), Cyrus Gray (695,418), Charcandrick West (510,000)
FB: Anthony Sherman (1,500,000)

< 28.127.196 >

TE: Vernon Davis (5,351,250), Travis Kelce (853,826), Demetrius Harris (585,000)
WR: Dwayne Bowe (14,000,000), Frankie Hammond (585,000)
WR: Albert Wilson (510,000)
WR: De'Anthony Thomas (623,027)

< 22.508.103 >

LT: Eric Fisher (6,051,954),
LG: Jeff Allen (1,477,580), Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (543,075)
C: Rodney Hudson (re-sign), Eric Kush (624,779)
RG: Zach Fulton (544,055)
RT: Alex Boone (3,400,000)


< 12.641.443 >

4-3 Under Defense

LDE: Allen Bailey (3,250,000), Mike Catapano (610,781)
LDT: Vance Walker (3,750,000 ), Jaye Howard (660,000)
RDT: Dontari Poe (3,601,822), Nick Williams (510,000 )
RDE: Dee Ford (1,854,250) , Josh Martin (660,000)

< 14.896.853 >

SLB: Justin Houston (TAG), Frank Zombo (820,000)
MLB: Derrick Johnson (5,250,000), Joe Mays (4,000,000)
WLB: James-Michael Johnson (660,000)

< 10.73 >

LCB: Phillip Gaines (655,278), Marcus Cooper (585,000)
RCB: Sean Smith (7,750,000)
NCB: Jamell Fleming (660,000)
SS: Eric Berry (8,357,700), Daniel Sorenson (510,000)
FS: Husain Abdullah (1,145,000), Sanders Commings (572,378)

< 20.235.356 > ...... add K and P = < 4.310.666 >

Practice Squad

Special Teams
K: Cairo Santos (510,666)
P: Dustin Colquitt (3,800,000)
LS:
KR: Knile Davis (736,504), De'Anthony Thomas (623,027), Frankie Hammond (585,000)
PR: De'Anthony Thomas (623,027), Knile Davis (736,504), Albert Wilson (510,000)


45 players as of 12/20... total cost = 113.449.617 mil

remaining cap available = 26.550.383 mil


- if Alex restructures, then cap available = 34.725.383 mil
- if Hudson re-sign at 5.5, then cap = 29.225.383 mil
- if Houston F-tag at 13, then new cap available is roughly = 16 mil


Trades:
49ers trade:
0036 - Alex Boone - G(3,400,000)
1309 - Vernon Davis - TE(4,350,000)

Chiefs trade:
2nd round(#57)
0421 - Donald Stephenson - LT(660,000)


DRAFT PICKS:

Round 1 (#25)
rd 2 traded to SF for Boone and VD
Round 3 (#89)
Round 4 (#121)
Round 5 (#153)
Round 6 (#185)
Round 7 (#217)


Intended releases or trades

Chase Daniel (4,800,000) saves 3.8 mil
Anthony Fasano (4,225,000) saves 2 mil
Donnie Avery (4,050,000) saves 3.55 mil
Tamba Hali (11,964,706) saves 9 mil
Mike DeVito (5,400,000) saves 4 mil
A.J. Jenkins (1,337,390) saves 1,337,390 mil

total save = 23.687.739 mil

also allowed to walk:
WR / Junior Hemingway (ERFA)
OT / Ryan Harris (UFA)
RB / Joe McKnight (UFA)
OG / Mike McGlynn (UFA)
OL / Jeff Linkenbach (UFA)
DL / Kevin Vickerson (UFA)
DE / Dezman Moses (RFA)
LB / Josh Mauga (UFA)
CB / Chris Owens (UFA)
DB / Ron Parker (UFA)
S / Kurt Coleman (UFA)
S / Kelcie McCray (RFA)
LS / Thomas Gafford (UFA)

ERFAs
WR / Frankie Hammond (ERFA) - (585,000)
DE / Josh Martin (ERFA) - (660,000)
TE / Demetrius Harris (ERFA) - (585,000)

Alex restructure: saves 8.175 mil in 2015 cap

original deal
2015 - 11.9 base -- 3.6 sb -- .100 wb -- 15.6 cap hit
2016 - 14.1 base -- 3.6 sb -- .100 wb -- 17.8 cap hit
2017 - 10.8 base -- 3.6 sb -- .500 wb -- 16.9 cap hit ----- 2 mil roster bonus
2018 - 14.5 base -- 3.6 sb -- .500 wb -- 20.6 cap hit ----- 2 mil roster bonus

converts 10.9 base into prorated bonus - 2.725 bonus per yr

restructured deal
2015 - 1 m base -- 6.325 sb -- .100 wb -- 7.425 cap hit
2016 - 14.1 base -- 6.325 sb -- .100 wb -- 20.525 cap hit
2017 - 10.8 base -- 6.325 sb -- .500 wb -- 19.625 cap hit ----- 2 mil roster bonus
2018 - 14.5 base -- 6.325 sb -- .500 wb -- 23.325 cap hit ----- 2 mil roster bonus

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

UFA target: WR / Torrey Smith
5 years, 40 million (21.5 mil guaranteed)

2015 - 3 m base (guaranteed)------- 3 sb -- .500 wb -- 6.5 mil cap hit
2016 - 3.5 m base (guaranteed) ---- 3 sb -- .500 wb -- 7.0 mil cap hit
2017 - 4 base ------------------------ 3 sb -- .500 wb -- 7.5 mil cap hit
2018 - 4.5 m base ------------------- 3 sb -- .500 wb --- 9.0 mil cap hit ----- 1 mil roster bonus
2019 - 5.5 m base ------------------- 3 sb -- .500 wb --- 10 mil cap hit ----- 1 mil roster bonus
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

UFA target: C / Rodney Hudson
5 years, 37.5 million (17.5 mil guaranteed)

2015 - 3.5 m base (guaranteed) -------- 2 sb -- .500 wb -- 6 mil cap hit
2016 - 4 m base (guaranteed) ---------- 2 sb -- .500 wb -- 6.5 mil cap hit
2017 - 4.5 base -------------------------- 2 sb -- .500 wb -- 7.0 mil cap hit
2018 - 5 m base ------------------------- 2 sb -- .500 wb --- 8.5 mil cap hit ----- 1 mil roster bonus
2019 - 6 m base ------------------------- 2 sb -- .500 wb --- 9.5 mil cap hit ----- 1 mil roster bonus
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?
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deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.
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tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.
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deuces22wild wrote:
tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.


welcome, although its just my opinion others might feel different =p
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deuces22wild wrote:
tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.



I think Dashon is versatile enough to play both spots. Fangio has often said our safeties were interchangeable, so the notion of FS vs SS is pointless, really. It could have made a difference if franchise tag numbers differed for FS and SS, but all safeties are lumped together there as well. I think what determines a player's role on a team is his skill set, not whatever a position is pidgeon-holed to be. Maybe in the 90s. Not so much anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.


welcome, although its just my opinion others might feel different =p


You basically hit the nail on the head. I don't know why Tampa fans would think Dashon's strictly a SS. We've talked about moving him there a couple times, but he's always played FS for us.
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There is nothing wrong with his coverage abilities, and he improved big time in that area from last season. You could say gambled more in the past, but this season for the most part he did a good job of toning that down.
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Baalke should offer him 5 ys $38 mill with a lot of it coming as a signing bonus (roster bonus?) that kicks in by the 3rd season, if he doesn't take it then we franchise him and select a safety with one of our first 3 picks. Goldson is good but he is not a top notch safety, he misses too many tackles and he often takes poor angles.
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I'd rather see Whitner gone than Dashon, honestly. I think that he's actually a decent tackler, although he compromises it for a big-hit at times. That's important for attitude though as it gives energy to the rest of the defense. The fact that he can play both FS and SS would allow us some flexibility if we were to draft a safety as well.
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Let him walk. Draft Eric Reid.
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RedWhiteNGold wrote:
I'd rather see Whitner gone than Dashon, honestly. I think that he's actually a decent tackler, although he compromises it for a big-hit at times. That's important for attitude though as it gives energy to the rest of the defense. The fact that he can play both FS and SS would allow us some flexibility if we were to draft a safety as well.


I agree with this... and don't mind repeating that I am intrigued with drafting a CB and moving Culliver to S. (that way Culliver can play FS and Goldson can shift to SS on at least a 1 year tag) I think this could be a good move for our pass defense.. but maybe not... who can really say?

Seventh Round

216.) Houston Texans - select - S - Hakeem Smith {Louisville}
217.) Washington Redskins - select - G - Charles Leno {Boise State}
218.) Cleveland Browns - select - K - Cairo Santos {Tulane}
219.) Oakland Raiders - select - DE/TE - Larry Webster {Bloomsburg}
220.) Atlanta Falcons - select - LB - Avery Williamson {Kentucky}
221.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - select - DE - Michael Sam {Missouri}
222.) Jacksonville Jaguars - select - RB - James White {Wisconsin}
223.) Minnesota Vikings - select - DE - Aaron Lynch {S. Florida}
224.) Buffalo Bills - select - DE - Ethan Westbrooks {W. Texas A&M}
225.) Carolina Panthers (via NYG) - select - QB - Garrett Gilbert {S. Methodist}
226.) St. Louis Rams - select - DE - Devon Kennard {Southern Cal}
227.) Detroit Lions - select - CB - Nevin Lawson {Utah}
228.) Tennessee Titans - select - WR - Michael Campanaro {Wake Forest}
229.) Dallas Cowboys (via CHI) - select - S - Lonnie Ballentine {Memphis}
230.) Pittsburgh Steelers - select - T - Matt Patchan {Boston College}
231.) Dallas Cowboys - select - LB - Ron Powell {Florida}
232.) Indianapolis Colts (via BAL) - select - WR - Kevin Norwood {Alabama}
233.) New York Jets - select - P - Tom Hornsey {Memphis}
234.) Miami Dolphins - select - S - C.J. Barnett {Ohio State}
235.) Oakland Raiders (via ARI) - select - S/CB - Jemea Thomas {Georgia Tech}
236.) Green Bay Packers - select - CB - Andre Hal {Vanderbilt}
237.) Philadelphia Eagles - select - G/T - Andrew Norwell {Ohio State}
238.) Dallas Cowboys (via KC) - select - CB - Kendall James {Maine}
239.) Cincinnati Bengals - select - DE - Zach Moore {Concordia St. Paul}
240.) San Diego Chargers - select - TE - Colt Lyerla {Oregon}
241.) St. Louis Rams (via IND) - select - LB - Denicos Allen {Michigan State}
242.) San Francisco 49ers (via NO) - select - QB - Connor Shaw {S. Carolina}
243.) San Francisco 49ers (via CAR) - select - C/G - Corey Linsley {Ohio State}
244.) New England Patriots - select - C - Gabe Ikard {Oklahoma}
245.) San Francisco 49ers - select - RB - LaDarius Perkins {Mississippi St}
246.) Denver Broncos - select - WR - T.J. Jones {Notre Dame}
247.) Oakland Raiders (via SEA) - select - LB - Marquis Spruill {Syracuse}
248.) Dallas Cowboys - select - TE - Joe Don Duncan {Dixie State}
249.) St. Louis Rams - select - DT - Kerry Hyder {Texas Tech}
250.) St. Louis Rams - select - LB - Glenn Carson {Penn State}
251.) Dallas Cowboys - select - DE - Lawrence Virgil {Valdasto State}
252.) Cincinnati Bengals - select - RB - Tyler Gaffney {Stanford}
253.) Atlanta Falcons - select - QB - Tajh Boyd {Clemson}
254.) Dallas Cowboys - select - WR - John Brown {Pittsburgh State}
255.) Atlanta Falcons - select - DE/OLB - Morgan Breslin {Southern Cal}
256.) Houston Texans - select - T - Kevin Pamphile {Purdue}
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oldman9er wrote:
RedWhiteNGold wrote:
I'd rather see Whitner gone than Dashon, honestly. I think that he's actually a decent tackler, although he compromises it for a big-hit at times. That's important for attitude though as it gives energy to the rest of the defense. The fact that he can play both FS and SS would allow us some flexibility if we were to draft a safety as well.


I agree with this... and don't mind repeating that I am intrigued with drafting a CB and moving Culliver to S. (that way Culliver can play FS and Goldson can shift to SS on at least a 1 year tag) I think this could be a good move for our pass defense.. but maybe not... who can really say?


We could then draft a CB to compete with Cox for the nickel job and groom a S for next year. I love the plan but highly doubt it will happen. I really think that if Goldson is able to sign elsewhere, we will probably sign a vet and draft someone to groom/take over the job midway through the season unless that vet is someone like William Moore.
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Read on niner nation that buffalo is interested in dashon.
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