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A league source tells CSN Bay Area it's "no certainty" the 49ers will use the franchise tag on free agent FS Dashon Goldson for the second consecutive offseason.
Keeping Goldson is expected to be a priority for the 49ers, but the sides will continue to negotiate a long-term deal ahead of the March 4 deadline to apply the franchise tag. Coming off arguably the best season of his career, Goldson would be due $7.5 million it tagged for the second straight year.

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NcFinest9erFan wrote:
A league source tells CSN Bay Area it's "no certainty" the 49ers will use the franchise tag on free agent FS Dashon Goldson for the second consecutive offseason.
Keeping Goldson is expected to be a priority for the 49ers, but the sides will continue to negotiate a long-term deal ahead of the March 4 deadline to apply the franchise tag. Coming off arguably the best season of his career, Goldson would be due $7.5 million it tagged for the second straight year.

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Hey! I feel so cheated! We had to pay 7.7 mil to tag him in FFMD. That's it! I'm making calls to.. er... nah, forget it. Suppose I can scrounge up that chump change underneath the couch cushions.



FRANCHISE TAG PRIMER: PREDICTIONS FOR ALL 32 TEAMS

http://wap.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000139963/franchise-tag-primer-predictions-for-all-32-nfl-teams/

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5. Dashon Goldson, San Francisco 49ers: Coach Jim Harbaugh said the 49ers should "reward" Goldson with a long-term deal. That might come eventually, but we expect the tag to come first (Goldson was also tagged last year).


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Fifth Round

141.) Houston Texans - select - CB - Chris Davis {Auburn}
142.) Washington Redskins - select - S - Dezmen Southward {Wisconsin}
143.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - select - LB - Jordan Zumwalt {UCLA}
144.) Jacksonville Jaguars - select - LB - Christian Kirksey {Iowa}
145.) Cleveland Browns - select - G/T - Michael Schofield {Michigan}
146.) Seattle Seahawks (via OAK) - select - G - Anthony Steen {Alabama}
147.) Atlanta Falcons - select - FB - Jay Prosch {Auburn}
148.) Minnesota Vikings - select - S/CB - Brock Vereen {Minnesota}
149.) Buffalo Bills - select - RB - Ka'Deem Carey {Arizona}
150.) Jacksonville Jaguars (via DET) - select - TE - A.C Leonard {Tennessee State}
151.) Tennessee Titans - select - QB - David Fales {San Jose State}
152.) New York Giants - select - LB - Carlos Fields Jr. {Winston-Salem }
153.) St. Louis Rams - select - CB - Rashaad Reynolds {Oregon State}
154.) New York Jets - select - LB - Max Bullough {Michigan State}
155.) Miami Dolphins - select - RB - Rajion Neal {Tennessee}
156.) Chicago Bears - select - S - Ahmad Dixon {Baylor}
157.) Pittsburgh Steelers - select - NT - Zack Kerr {Delaware}
158.) Jacksonville Jaguars (via BAL) - select - WR - Mike Davis {Texas}
159.) Dallas Cowboys - select - WR - Devin Street {Pittsburgh}
160.) Arizona Cardinals - select - TE - Crockett Gilmore {Colorado State}
161.) Green Bay Packers - select - LB - James Morris {Iowa}
162.) Philadelphia Eagles - select - S/CB - Marqueston Huff {Wyoming}
163.) Kansas City Chiefs - select - WR - Bennie Fowler {Michigan State}
164.) Cincinnati Bengals - select - DL - Taylor Hart {Oregon}
165.) San Diego Chargers - select - T/G - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif {McGill}
166.) Indianapolis Colts - select - G - Jon Halapio {Florida}
167.) New Orleans Saints - select - DE - Brent Urban {Virginia}
168.) Carolina Panthers - select - CB - Marcus Williams {N. Dakota State}
169.) New Orleans Saints (via PHI) - select - DE/OLB - Cassius Marsh {UCLA}
170.) San Francisco 49ers - select - DE - Jay Bromley {Syracuse}
171.) Denver Broncos - select - DT - Will Sutton {Arizona State}
172.) Seattle Seahawks - select - T/G - Justin Britt {Missouri}
173.) Pittsburgh Steelers - select - TE - Marcel Jenson {Fresno State}
174.) New York Giants - select - WR - Dri Archer {Kent State}
175.) Baltimore Ravens - select - CB - Aaron Colvin {Oklahoma}
176.) Green Bay Packers - select - DE/OLB - Howard Jones {Shepherd}


Sixth Round

177.) Houston Texans - select - T - Cornelius Lucas {Kansas State}
178.) Washington Redskins - select - DL - Deandre Coleman {California}
179.) Jacksonville Jaguars - select - RB - Marion Grice {Arizona State}
180.) Cleveland Browns - select - LB - Preston Brown {Louisville}
181.) Houston Texans (via OAK) - select - FB - Trey Millard {Oklahoma}
182.) Atlanta Falcons - select - WR - L'Damian Washington {Missouri}
183.) Chicago Bears (via TB) - select - LB - Khiari Forrt {California}
184.) Minnesota Vikings - select - DT - George Uko {Southern Cal}
185.) Tampa Bay Bucs (via BUF) - select - TE - Xavier Grimble {Southern Cal}
186.) Tennessee Titans - select - DL - Shamar Stephen {Connecticut}
187.) New York Giants - select - C - Bryan Stork {Florida State}
188.) St. Louis Rams - select - WR - Shaq Evans {UCLA}
189.) Detroit Lions - select - K - Chris Boswell {Rice}
190.) Miami Dolphins - select - QB - Jeff Mathews {Cornell}
191.) Chicago Bears - select - P - Kirby Van Der Kamp {Iowa State}
192.) Pittsburgh Steelers - select - WR - Josh Huff {Oregon}
193.) Kansas City Chiefs (via DAL) - select - CB - Greg Ducre {Washington}
194.) Baltimore Ravens - select - CB - Shaq Richardson {Arizona}
195.) New York Jets - select - DE - Josh Mauro {Stanford}
196.) Arizona Cardinals - select - G/T - Brandon Linder {Miami}
197.) Green Bay Packers - select - DE - Ed Stinson {Alabama}
198.) New England Patriots (via PHI) - select - NT - Ryan Carrethers {Arkansas St}
199.) Cincinnati Bengals - select - C - Russell Bodine {N. Carolina}
200.) Kansas City Chiefs - select - LB - Devekeyan Lattimore {S. Florida}
201.) San Diego Chargers - select - CB - Terrance Mitchell {Oregon}
202.) New Orleans Saints - select - RB - Jerrick Mickinnon {Georgia Southern}
203.) Indianapolis Colts - select - CB - Travis Carrie {Ohio}
204.) Carolina Panthers - select - RB - Storm Johnson {C. Florida}
205.) Jacksonville Jaguars (via SF) - select - DT - Khyri Thornton {S. Mississippi}
206.) New England Patriots - select - DE/LB - Adrian Hubbard {Alabama}
207.) Denver Broncos - select - RB/WR - De'Anthony Thomas {Oregon}
208.) Seattle Seahawks - select - LB - Kevin Pierre-Lewis {Boston College}
209.) New York Jets - select - QB - Logan Thomas {Virginia Tech}
210.) New York Jets - select - T - Seantrel Henderson {Miami}
211.) Houston Texans - select - WR - Jeff Janis {Saginaw Valley State}
212.) Cincinnati Bengals - select - WR - Jalen Saunders {Oklahoma}
213.) New York Jets - select - CB - Deion Belue {Alabama}
214.) St. Louis Rams - select - RB - Isaiah Crowell {Alabama State}
215.) Pittsburgh Steelers - select - S - Jonathan Dowling {W. Kentucky}
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?
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deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.
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tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.
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deuces22wild wrote:
tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.


welcome, although its just my opinion others might feel different =p
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deuces22wild wrote:
tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.



I think Dashon is versatile enough to play both spots. Fangio has often said our safeties were interchangeable, so the notion of FS vs SS is pointless, really. It could have made a difference if franchise tag numbers differed for FS and SS, but all safeties are lumped together there as well. I think what determines a player's role on a team is his skill set, not whatever a position is pidgeon-holed to be. Maybe in the 90s. Not so much anymore.
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tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
tiger9er08 wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
I know Dashon is known to gamble now and again.

Two questions do you guys think he should be playing strong safety and the second is, is he a liability in coverage?


Me personally i think Goldson is fine doing what he does.. the thing is as long as the other safety has his back when he gambles, but that really fits any number of schemes where players gamble. The main thing is Donte Whitner isnt a top speed guy, he's a solid player but if Goldson misses on his gambles Whitner doesnt have the speed to make up for it. Lot of times last year when they got burnt was mostly communication issues before the ball was snapped, players out of position and confusion on which player they needed to cover.


Thanks for the reply.

I have him going to us in a mock I just did and a few guys insist that he is a SS. I personally don't think so at all but figured I would get legit team fans view.


welcome, although its just my opinion others might feel different =p


You basically hit the nail on the head. I don't know why Tampa fans would think Dashon's strictly a SS. We've talked about moving him there a couple times, but he's always played FS for us.
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There is nothing wrong with his coverage abilities, and he improved big time in that area from last season. You could say gambled more in the past, but this season for the most part he did a good job of toning that down.
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Baalke should offer him 5 ys $38 mill with a lot of it coming as a signing bonus (roster bonus?) that kicks in by the 3rd season, if he doesn't take it then we franchise him and select a safety with one of our first 3 picks. Goldson is good but he is not a top notch safety, he misses too many tackles and he often takes poor angles.
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I'd rather see Whitner gone than Dashon, honestly. I think that he's actually a decent tackler, although he compromises it for a big-hit at times. That's important for attitude though as it gives energy to the rest of the defense. The fact that he can play both FS and SS would allow us some flexibility if we were to draft a safety as well.
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Let him walk. Draft Eric Reid.
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RedWhiteNGold wrote:
I'd rather see Whitner gone than Dashon, honestly. I think that he's actually a decent tackler, although he compromises it for a big-hit at times. That's important for attitude though as it gives energy to the rest of the defense. The fact that he can play both FS and SS would allow us some flexibility if we were to draft a safety as well.


I agree with this... and don't mind repeating that I am intrigued with drafting a CB and moving Culliver to S. (that way Culliver can play FS and Goldson can shift to SS on at least a 1 year tag) I think this could be a good move for our pass defense.. but maybe not... who can really say?

Seventh Round

216.) Houston Texans - select - S - Hakeem Smith {Louisville}
217.) Washington Redskins - select - G - Charles Leno {Boise State}
218.) Cleveland Browns - select - K - Cairo Santos {Tulane}
219.) Oakland Raiders - select - DE/TE - Larry Webster {Bloomsburg}
220.) Atlanta Falcons - select - LB - Avery Williamson {Kentucky}
221.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - select - DE - Michael Sam {Missouri}
222.) Jacksonville Jaguars - select - RB - James White {Wisconsin}
223.) Minnesota Vikings - select - DE - Aaron Lynch {S. Florida}
224.) Buffalo Bills - select - DE - Ethan Westbrooks {W. Texas A&M}
225.) Carolina Panthers (via NYG) - select - QB - Garrett Gilbert {S. Methodist}
226.) St. Louis Rams - select - DE - Devon Kennard {Southern Cal}
227.) Detroit Lions - select - CB - Nevin Lawson {Utah}
228.) Tennessee Titans - select - WR - Michael Campanaro {Wake Forest}
229.) Dallas Cowboys (via CHI) - select - S - Lonnie Ballentine {Memphis}
230.) Pittsburgh Steelers - select - T - Matt Patchan {Boston College}
231.) Dallas Cowboys - select - LB - Ron Powell {Florida}
232.) Indianapolis Colts (via BAL) - select - WR - Kevin Norwood {Alabama}
233.) New York Jets - select - P - Tom Hornsey {Memphis}
234.) Miami Dolphins - select - S - C.J. Barnett {Ohio State}
235.) Oakland Raiders (via ARI) - select - S/CB - Jemea Thomas {Georgia Tech}
236.) Green Bay Packers - select - CB - Andre Hal {Vanderbilt}
237.) Philadelphia Eagles - select - G/T - Andrew Norwell {Ohio State}
238.) Dallas Cowboys (via KC) - select - CB - Kendall James {Maine}
239.) Cincinnati Bengals - select - DE - Zach Moore {Concordia St. Paul}
240.) San Diego Chargers - select - TE - Colt Lyerla {Oregon}
241.) St. Louis Rams (via IND) - select - LB - Denicos Allen {Michigan State}
242.) San Francisco 49ers (via NO) - select - QB - Connor Shaw {S. Carolina}
243.) San Francisco 49ers (via CAR) - select - C/G - Corey Linsley {Ohio State}
244.) New England Patriots - select - C - Gabe Ikard {Oklahoma}
245.) San Francisco 49ers - select - RB - LaDarius Perkins {Mississippi St}
246.) Denver Broncos - select - WR - T.J. Jones {Notre Dame}
247.) Oakland Raiders (via SEA) - select - LB - Marquis Spruill {Syracuse}
248.) Dallas Cowboys - select - TE - Joe Don Duncan {Dixie State}
249.) St. Louis Rams - select - DT - Kerry Hyder {Texas Tech}
250.) St. Louis Rams - select - LB - Glenn Carson {Penn State}
251.) Dallas Cowboys - select - DE - Lawrence Virgil {Valdasto State}
252.) Cincinnati Bengals - select - RB - Tyler Gaffney {Stanford}
253.) Atlanta Falcons - select - QB - Tajh Boyd {Clemson}
254.) Dallas Cowboys - select - WR - John Brown {Pittsburgh State}
255.) Atlanta Falcons - select - DE/OLB - Morgan Breslin {Southern Cal}
256.) Houston Texans - select - T - Kevin Pamphile {Purdue}
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oldman9er wrote:
RedWhiteNGold wrote:
I'd rather see Whitner gone than Dashon, honestly. I think that he's actually a decent tackler, although he compromises it for a big-hit at times. That's important for attitude though as it gives energy to the rest of the defense. The fact that he can play both FS and SS would allow us some flexibility if we were to draft a safety as well.


I agree with this... and don't mind repeating that I am intrigued with drafting a CB and moving Culliver to S. (that way Culliver can play FS and Goldson can shift to SS on at least a 1 year tag) I think this could be a good move for our pass defense.. but maybe not... who can really say?


We could then draft a CB to compete with Cox for the nickel job and groom a S for next year. I love the plan but highly doubt it will happen. I really think that if Goldson is able to sign elsewhere, we will probably sign a vet and draft someone to groom/take over the job midway through the season unless that vet is someone like William Moore.
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Read on niner nation that buffalo is interested in dashon.
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