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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I find most people say they want to see the ball run more, but really donít.

Very, very, very few of us are of the old school 3 yards and a cloud of dust variety. And no, this isnít a call of machismo to see who is of the old ilk or not. Passing is exciting. Big plays are dynamic. Football, after all, is entertainment.

I would love to see a Ďboringí offense of Saban or Coach Boom because I truly believe itís the most effective. However, I know we are a passing league and I also know our skill set is that which allows us to expose opposing teams coverage.

For me, I want a play-caller not to design a variety of different plays. For while I do take issue with some situational decisions and play-calls, as a whole I donít like to lean on hindsight to vindicate my opinions, so I donít want a play caller for that reason per say. No, instead I want a play-caller to alleviate items from Redballs plate. There is such a thing as being spread too thin.

I think Redball would be inherently comfortable with Norv and he would trust him implicitly which would allow for Redballs focus to be more broad in scope.

Also. I donít agree with Matts premise that under contract means off-limits. It just means we have to ask for permission. Some teams may deny the request, thatís true, but as a whole I think teams would be copacetic to allowing it. I would not want to keep an employee Ė no matter how extraordinary Ė if it meant I am denying them a chance at a better (or dream) job. I think that would build ill will more than anything. I take coach Booms approach: If you are a positional coach and get offered a coordinator spot, go. If you are an assistant coach and get offered a head coaching gig, go. Never limit yourself and always grow.


Outlaw I think their is a resurgence in the running game in today's nfl. Look at the rookie qb's this season who made the playoffs. When Ballard took over in Indy it made it easier for Luck. Lynch was the transmission for the Hawks. Wilson's pistol set wouldn't have been so effective without Lynch. Same thing for RG3. Morris was the key on that team. (btw Morris has a lot of Emmitt in him)

Look at the Vikes with Peterson. Ponder had an up and down season yet behind Peterson they at least made the playoffs. Very few qb's can carry a team like Manning , Brady and Rodgers. Even Brees benefits from the threat of Thomas. Along with the resurgence in the running game having an acute playcaller in the mix helps exponentially. This is where Garrett is a HUGE fail.
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Eagles are interviewing Brian Kelly.


According to another site, Adam Schefter said the eagles are no longer interested in Lovie Smith.
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ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the Jaguars are "unlikely" to retain coach Mike Mularkey following Tuesday's hiring of David Caldwell as GM.
Schefter joins CBS' Jason La Canfora in predicting Mularkey's ouster. It's a matter of when, not if, Mularkey is handed his walking papers after going 2-14 during his first season in Jacksonville


Potential OC?
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Jaguars Offense - TM - Jaguars

ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the Jaguars are "unlikely" to retain coach Mike Mularkey following Tuesday's hiring of David Caldwell as GM.
Schefter joins CBS' Jason La Canfora in predicting Mularkey's ouster. It's a matter of when, not if, Mularkey is handed his walking papers after going 2-14 during his first season in Jacksonville


Potential OC?


I would absolutely love it if we brought in Mularkey as the OC. His offense in Atlanta was balanced and fun to watch.
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ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the Jaguars are "unlikely" to retain coach Mike Mularkey following Tuesday's hiring of David Caldwell as GM.
Schefter joins CBS' Jason La Canfora in predicting Mularkey's ouster. It's a matter of when, not if, Mularkey is handed his walking papers after going 2-14 during his first season in Jacksonville


Potential OC?


They do know each other from their Miami Days...
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Outlaw I think their is a resurgence in the running game in today's nfl. Look at the rookie qb's this season who made the playoffs. When Ballard took over in Indy it made it easier for Luck. Lynch was the transmission for the Hawks. Wilson's pistol set wouldn't have been so effective without Lynch. Same thing for RG3. Morris was the key on that team. (btw Morris has a lot of Emmitt in him)

Look at the Vikes with Peterson. Ponder had an up and down season yet behind Peterson they at least made the playoffs. Very few qb's can carry a team like Manning , Brady and Rodgers. Even Brees benefits from the threat of Thomas. Along with the resurgence in the running game having an acute playcaller in the mix helps exponentially. This is where Garrett is a HUGE fail.


We disagree on several points, most notably the comparison of Morris and Smith.
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Why is nothing happening?!?!?! Going crazy over here! Brick wall
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Matts4313 wrote:
3-4
Horton*
Capers*
John Pagano*

Crennel
Eric Mangini
Todd Grantham

*both unavailable right now.

4-3
Lovie Smith
Monte Kiffen
Rob Marinelli
Dave Wannstedt
Jim Washburn
Ken Norton Jr*


Multiple Fronts
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Eagles are interviewing Brian Kelly.


I read that. He'd be a great hire. I think Brian Kelly is one of the few college coaches who could transition to the NFL and have success.
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htfryar wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
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Jaguars Offense - TM - Jaguars

ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the Jaguars are "unlikely" to retain coach Mike Mularkey following Tuesday's hiring of David Caldwell as GM.
Schefter joins CBS' Jason La Canfora in predicting Mularkey's ouster. It's a matter of when, not if, Mularkey is handed his walking papers after going 2-14 during his first season in Jacksonville


Potential OC?


I would absolutely love it if we brought in Mularkey as the OC. His offense in Atlanta was balanced and fun to watch.


Mularkey as OC would not suck.
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htfryar wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
Quote:
Jaguars Offense - TM - Jaguars

ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the Jaguars are "unlikely" to retain coach Mike Mularkey following Tuesday's hiring of David Caldwell as GM.
Schefter joins CBS' Jason La Canfora in predicting Mularkey's ouster. It's a matter of when, not if, Mularkey is handed his walking papers after going 2-14 during his first season in Jacksonville


Potential OC?


I would absolutely love it if we brought in Mularkey as the OC. His offense in Atlanta was balanced and fun to watch.


Mularkey as OC would not suck.[/quote]


Mularkey wouldn't suck at all. It would be interesting to see how he and Jason would mesh. Of all the candidates being bandied about Mularkey would by my favorite.
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Dboys88-82 wrote:
Why is nothing happening?!?!?! Going crazy over here! Brick wall


I have a feeling they are waiting for someone in the playoffs.
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Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
I find most people say they want to see the ball run more, but really donít.

Very, very, very few of us are of the old school 3 yards and a cloud of dust variety. And no, this isnít a call of machismo to see who is of the old ilk or not. Passing is exciting. Big plays are dynamic. Football, after all, is entertainment.

I would love to see a Ďboringí offense of Saban or Coach Boom because I truly believe itís the most effective. However, I know we are a passing league and I also know our skill set is that which allows us to expose opposing teams coverage.

For me, I want a play-caller not to design a variety of different plays. For while I do take issue with some situational decisions and play-calls, as a whole I donít like to lean on hindsight to vindicate my opinions, so I donít want a play caller for that reason per say. No, instead I want a play-caller to alleviate items from Redballs plate. There is such a thing as being spread too thin.

I think Redball would be inherently comfortable with Norv and he would trust him implicitly which would allow for Redballs focus to be more broad in scope.

Also. I donít agree with Matts premise that under contract means off-limits. It just means we have to ask for permission. Some teams may deny the request, thatís true, but as a whole I think teams would be copacetic to allowing it. I would not want to keep an employee Ė no matter how extraordinary Ė if it meant I am denying them a chance at a better (or dream) job. I think that would build ill will more than anything. I take coach Booms approach: If you are a positional coach and get offered a coordinator spot, go. If you are an assistant coach and get offered a head coaching gig, go. Never limit yourself and always grow.


Outlaw I think their is a resurgence in the running game in today's nfl. Look at the rookie qb's this season who made the playoffs. When Ballard took over in Indy it made it easier for Luck. Lynch was the transmission for the Hawks. Wilson's pistol set wouldn't have been so effective without Lynch. Same thing for RG3. Morris was the key on that team. (btw Morris has a lot of Emmitt in him)

Look at the Vikes with Peterson. Ponder had an up and down season yet behind Peterson they at least made the playoffs. Very few qb's can carry a team like Manning , Brady and Rodgers. Even Brees benefits from the threat of Thomas. Along with the resurgence in the running game having an acute playcaller in the mix helps exponentially. This is where Garrett is a HUGE fail.


Mensa I would agree with your points that the run is making a comeback. I really don't care about passing league, running league, Coryell offense, West Coast offense. I think it boils down to are you properly utilizing the personnel you have? And I see #29 in our backfield and think there's a horse that we could ride a lot more than we are (his health has factored into the equation). When you have a back with that sort of ability you need to make sure he is a vital component of your offensive philosophy. I am not saying that we do nothing but run, run, and run. Just run a little more. Balance it out a bit.
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plan9misfit wrote:
htfryar wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
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Jaguars Offense - TM - Jaguars

ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the Jaguars are "unlikely" to retain coach Mike Mularkey following Tuesday's hiring of David Caldwell as GM.
Schefter joins CBS' Jason La Canfora in predicting Mularkey's ouster. It's a matter of when, not if, Mularkey is handed his walking papers after going 2-14 during his first season in Jacksonville


Potential OC?


I would absolutely love it if we brought in Mularkey as the OC. His offense in Atlanta was balanced and fun to watch.


Mularkey as OC would not suck.


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