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ware94

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:58 am Post subject:

htfryar wrote:

Guys, I've said it before, I'll say it again. I want us to run a defense than is a hybrid 3-4/4-3 that can lineup in either formation and then motion into the other formation before the snap. Line up like this...

Ware..Carter..Lee..Spencer
....Hatcher...Ratliff...DE

Then, before the snap, motion into this...

...Carter...Lee...Spencer
Ware..Hatcher..Ratliff...DE

Or vice versa. Obviously, you would not shift on every play. Sometimes you would, sometimes you wouldn't. When you did shift, you would do it right before the snap. That would make it hard for the opposing offense to set their blocking assignments and then have to adjust them after the shift. Rob Ryan is supposed to be a defensive genius. Surely, he can figure out how to make this work.

To make it work, we either need a DE that can play either formation or a real NT and move Ratliff out to DE.

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:34 pm Post subject:

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:

textaz03 wrote:

plan9misfit wrote:

There had better be more.

Wade Wilson comes to mind!!

This was actually going to be my question. It's clear that Redball is the coach going forward, but the staff will be reevaluated.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/coaches.html

Who on that list would everyone like to see replaced?

I expect the following are safe:
Mike Woicik
Rob Ryan
Jimmy Robinson
Chris Boniol
Jerome Henderson
Bill Callahan
Matt Eberflus

As Iong as we keep Rob Ryan, Jimmy Robinson, Jerome Henderson, Bill Callahan and Matt Eberflus I'm happy.

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:34 pm Post subject:

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"One of the obstacles to Turner returning to Dallas is that he would want to bring many members of his own offensive coaching staff… so they would obviously have to create some vacancies."

Ed Werner's take
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:57 pm Post subject:

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@pcrayton12

So the cowboys fired the RB coach and that solves the problem? I guess Red had to blame the brother for something huh! # skip peete

LOL. Crayton if only you caught the ball as well as you run your mouth.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:52 pm Post subject:

WizardHawk wrote:

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@pcrayton12

So the cowboys fired the RB coach and that solves the problem? I guess Red had to blame the brother for something huh! # skip peete

LOL. Crayton if only you caught the ball as well as you run your mouth.

So nice of him to pull the race card, too. Stay classy, Cray-Cray.

Loser.
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The_Slamman wrote:

It's like we are in a win now mentality with lose now personnel.

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject:

Calvin Watkins ‏@calvinwatkins

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Just told Cowboys QB coach Wade Wilson is expected to return.

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:20 pm Post subject:

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:

Calvin Watkins ‏@calvinwatkins

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Just told Cowboys QB coach Wade Wilson is expected to return.

Gee, so much for those big changes. I'm really fed up with the lies and constant sunshine pumping when we all know there are major flaws with the staff and execs. For Christ's sake, stop lying to us.
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The_Slamman wrote:

It's like we are in a win now mentality with lose now personnel.

textaz03

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject:

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:

Calvin Watkins ‏@calvinwatkins

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Just told Cowboys QB coach Wade Wilson is expected to return.

really???? So what uncharacteristic changes are coming?? Wilson should not remain!!!

Thanks for getting my hopes up Jerry then letting it come crashing down on me!!!
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject:

textaz03 wrote:

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:

Calvin Watkins ‏@calvinwatkins

Quote:

Just told Cowboys QB coach Wade Wilson is expected to return.

really???? So what uncharacteristic changes are coming?? Wilson should not remain!!!

Thanks for getting my hopes up Jerry then letting it come crashing down on me!!!

At this rate, they're making Skip Peete the token patsy for all that ails this team. And it's not as if the failures on offense are on him. He didn't ask Murray to get hurt every time the grass turns green (or brown, or any other color for that matter), or ask Felix Jones to get fat and suck out loud, nor did he recommend that Garrett abandon the running game every time we were down by 7 points. Those issues fall on the "GM" and the head coach. Yet, no changes there. Just the RB coach.

So. Much. Fail.
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The_Slamman wrote:

It's like we are in a win now mentality with lose now personnel.

Texas_OutLaw7

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:41 pm Post subject:

I don't think this is the only move we will make. The 2012 Season hasn't even come to a close, but I would agree that if Skip Peete is the only coach that is not retained, I will be rather upset.

There are some coaches on this Staff I really like, but much like the Roster, at times you need to churn some of the staff to bring about progress.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:43 pm Post subject:

plan9misfit wrote:

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:

Calvin Watkins ‏@calvinwatkins

Quote:

Just told Cowboys QB coach Wade Wilson is expected to return.

Gee, so much for those big changes. I'm really fed up with the lies and constant sunshine pumping when we all know there are major flaws with the staff and execs. For Christ's sake, stop lying to us.

Come on Plan. Bringing back a guy that they never said was being let go does not make them liars. There very well could still be changes coming. We just have to wait and see. I don't like it that we are bringing Wade Wilson back, but it is a bit early to be jumping to conclusions that nothing else is going to change.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:48 pm Post subject:

plan9misfit wrote:

or ask Felix Jones to get fat

He might of. It was under Peetes watch that Felix decided to bulk up.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject:

Matts4313 wrote:

plan9misfit wrote:

or ask Felix Jones to get fat

He might of. It was under Peetes watch that Felix decided to bulk up.

Good point. Perhaps Peete should have clarified that "bulk up" means "add muscle mass" not "eat everything in sight, including the weights used to add muscle".
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The_Slamman wrote:

It's like we are in a win now mentality with lose now personnel.

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject:

plan9misfit wrote:

Matts4313 wrote:

plan9misfit wrote:

or ask Felix Jones to get fat

He might of. It was under Peetes watch that Felix decided to bulk up.

Good point. Perhaps Peete should have clarified that "bulk up" means "add muscle mass" not "eat everything in sight, including the weights used to add muscle".

Curious, perhaps he was taking the Roy Williams approach to a diet? A biscuit with every meal.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:54 pm Post subject:

htfryar wrote:

but it is a bit early to be jumping to conclusions that nothing else is going to change.

And almost on Cue, Micky Spags just said:

"Skip Peete firing is the first move and more to come in the coaching dept"
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