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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be in serious danger IMO:

Jason Garrett--OC duties (Head coaching as well but we wont get into it)
Wade Wilson--QBs
Wes Phillips--Assistant O line
Joe DeCamillis--Special Teams
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Runaway Jim wrote:
I think we should fire Wes Phillips. IT'S ALL HIS FAULT!!!


This. For offense quality control coach I don't see much quality in our offense ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just read an interesting stat, never had a 1,000 yard rusher under Skip Peetes 6 year tenure in Dallas!!

All hold overs from Wades staff should get te axe

Wes Phillips - what exactly is his role? OQC, yeah, about that
Wade Wilson - need a new mentor for Romo to try some new techniques
John Garrett (probably gets a pass, TE's have been good)
Joe D - not horrible, but not good either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

textaz03 wrote:
Football Mensa wrote:
Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
textaz03 wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
There had better be more.
Wade Wilson comes to mind!!


This was actually going to be my question. It's clear that Redball is the coach going forward, but the staff will be reevaluated.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/coaches.html

Who on that list would everyone like to see replaced?

Jason Garrett

I expect the following are safe:
Mike Woicik
Rob Ryan
Jimmy Robinson
Chris Boniol
Jerome Henderson
Bill Callahan
Matt Eberflus
in goin to say this for the last time, stop trying to derail threads about Garrett and Jerry!!! This thread is on assistants only!



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Thought it was interesting that on 105.3 they were saying that Rob Ryan could be out as DC. That word around valley ranch is that the Cowboys could be contemplating switching to the 4-3. With Spencer being a free agent that they could move Carter to OLB.

Not sure if it was sports talk fodder or actually had some truth behind it.
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[quote="buckwild"]Thought it was interesting that on 105.3 they were saying that Rob Ryan could be out as DC. That word around valley ranch is that the Cowboys could be contemplating switching to the 4-3. With Spencer being a free agent that they could move Carter to OLB.

Not sure if it was sports talk fodder or actually had some truth behind it.[/quote]

My pipe dream is that we switch back to a 4-3 D. I know we don't spend the majority of time in our base D, but now is the time to switch back if we don't sign Spencer, which I don't think we should.


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welcome to the forum. Sweet Avy.
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welcome to the forum. Sweet Avy.


Lol, thanks man. I've stalked this board for awhile now and finally got around to making an account.

Looking forward to discussing on our team with everyone.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

textaz03 wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
There had better be more.
Wade Wilson comes to mind!!


It's amazing how the Wade Wilson thing has grown legs past few days.

As for Peete's replacement, which I should mention I'm surprised by his dismissal, I would look very hard at Eric Bieniemy, fmr RB coach for Minnesota. He's currently listed as part of Cu's coaching staff, but I'm uncertain if he was retained by new CU coach Mike MacIntyre.
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ThePlaymaker86 wrote:
buckwild wrote:
Thought it was interesting that on 105.3 they were saying that Rob Ryan could be out as DC. That word around valley ranch is that the Cowboys could be contemplating switching to the 4-3. With Spencer being a free agent that they could move Carter to OLB.

Not sure if it was sports talk fodder or actually had some truth behind it.


My pipe dream is that we switch back to a 4-3 D. I know we don't spend the majority of time in our base D, but now is the time to switch back if we don't sign Spencer, which I don't think we should.


Welcome Playmaker!

And I sincerely hope (as you see in my sig) that we go back to a 4-3 base. I want to be able to rely on our front four to get pressure much like the Bears do.
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CowboysTilIDie wrote:
ThePlaymaker86 wrote:
buckwild wrote:
Thought it was interesting that on 105.3 they were saying that Rob Ryan could be out as DC. That word around valley ranch is that the Cowboys could be contemplating switching to the 4-3. With Spencer being a free agent that they could move Carter to OLB.

Not sure if it was sports talk fodder or actually had some truth behind it.


My pipe dream is that we switch back to a 4-3 D. I know we don't spend the majority of time in our base D, but now is the time to switch back if we don't sign Spencer, which I don't think we should.


Welcome Playmaker!

And I sincerely hope (as you see in my sig) that we go back to a 4-3 base. I want to be able to rely on our front four to get pressure much like the Bears do.


I'd welcome a hybrid D that transitions to a base 43 down the road.
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WizardHawk wrote:
CowboysTilIDie wrote:
ThePlaymaker86 wrote:
buckwild wrote:
Thought it was interesting that on 105.3 they were saying that Rob Ryan could be out as DC. That word around valley ranch is that the Cowboys could be contemplating switching to the 4-3. With Spencer being a free agent that they could move Carter to OLB.

Not sure if it was sports talk fodder or actually had some truth behind it.


My pipe dream is that we switch back to a 4-3 D. I know we don't spend the majority of time in our base D, but now is the time to switch back if we don't sign Spencer, which I don't think we should.


Welcome Playmaker!

And I sincerely hope (as you see in my sig) that we go back to a 4-3 base. I want to be able to rely on our front four to get pressure much like the Bears do.


I'd welcome a hybrid D that transitions to a base 43 down the road.


As I've said numerous times, I don't care what defense we run as long as we dedicate the appropriate resources to run it efficiently. As it stands now, we don't dedicate the appropriate resources to the 3-4 because we continually ignore the d-line, so I see little reason to believe that things would be handled any differently if we transitioned to the 4-3. It isn't a scheme thing; it's a draft philosophy thing.
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plan9misfit wrote:
WizardHawk wrote:
CowboysTilIDie wrote:
ThePlaymaker86 wrote:
buckwild wrote:
Thought it was interesting that on 105.3 they were saying that Rob Ryan could be out as DC. That word around valley ranch is that the Cowboys could be contemplating switching to the 4-3. With Spencer being a free agent that they could move Carter to OLB.

Not sure if it was sports talk fodder or actually had some truth behind it.


My pipe dream is that we switch back to a 4-3 D. I know we don't spend the majority of time in our base D, but now is the time to switch back if we don't sign Spencer, which I don't think we should.


Welcome Playmaker!

And I sincerely hope (as you see in my sig) that we go back to a 4-3 base. I want to be able to rely on our front four to get pressure much like the Bears do.


I'd welcome a hybrid D that transitions to a base 43 down the road.


As I've said numerous times, I don't care what defense we run as long as we dedicate the appropriate resources to run it efficiently. As it stands now, we don't dedicate the appropriate resources to the 3-4 because we continually ignore the d-line, so I see little reason to believe that things would be handled any differently if we transitioned to the 4-3. It isn't a scheme thing; it's a draft philosophy thing.


No argument there. Given what we have tho, and not seeing any change at DC coming up, I'd like to see some of those exotic schemes that RR was suppose to have a penchant for...ie, 34 front (Spears/Crawford, Rat/Spears/, Rat/Hatcher and Spears/Rat...Rat/Brent @ DT in 43). Just a better mix on the DL, if you catch my drift...

For all the talk when he came in, I think RR has shown anything but exotic.
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textaz03 wrote:
Just read an interesting stat, never had a 1,000 yard rusher under Skip Peetes 6 year tenure in Dallas!!

All hold overs from Wades staff should get te axe

Wes Phillips - what exactly is his role? OQC, yeah, about that
Wade Wilson - need a new mentor for Romo to try some new techniques
John Garrett (probably gets a pass, TE's have been good)
Joe D - not horrible, but not good either.


Do you really think anyone needed to coach Witten. I think we should just give Witten John Garrett's salary, and make him a player coach. That said, it's hard to judge, when your star TE plays with his jaw wired shut, and a bruised spleen. Jason's not gonna fire his brother anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, I've said it before, I'll say it again. I want us to run a defense than is a hybrid 3-4/4-3 that can lineup in either formation and then motion into the other formation before the snap. Line up like this...

Ware..Carter..Lee..Spencer
....Hatcher...Ratliff...DE

Then, before the snap, motion into this...

...Carter...Lee...Spencer
Ware..Hatcher..Ratliff...DE

Or vice versa. Obviously, you would not shift on every play. Sometimes you would, sometimes you wouldn't. When you did shift, you would do it right before the snap. That would make it hard for the opposing offense to set their blocking assignments and then have to adjust them after the shift. Rob Ryan is supposed to be a defensive genius. Surely, he can figure out how to make this work.

To make it work, we either need a DE that can play either formation or a real NT and move Ratliff out to DE.
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