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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The big problem Keim will encounter is that this guard class is very deep whereas the quarterback and tackle classes are not. Keim knows this better than anyone in our building. It's going to be a very difficult decision for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The big problem Keim will encounter is that this guard class is very deep whereas the quarterback and tackle classes are not. Keim knows this better than anyone in our building. It's going to be a very difficult decision for him.


Do you think they view Massie as a lock-down starter going into next year?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyV wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
The big problem Keim will encounter is that this guard class is very deep whereas the quarterback and tackle classes are not. Keim knows this better than anyone in our building. It's going to be a very difficult decision for him.


Do you think they view Massie as a lock-down starter going into next year?


I hope so, that's about all I can say. I think he's a real building block.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stchamp98 wrote:
The big problem Keim will encounter is that this guard class is very deep whereas the quarterback and tackle classes are not. Keim knows this better than anyone in our building. It's going to be a very difficult decision for him.


Keim is also a BPA guy so given our draft position and need at OG i'm expecting him to be the pick. I bet Warmack is top 3 on our Big Board.

Tbh I'm worried Detroit could take him at #5...
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Keim is a BPA within the needs guy. Very good point.
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Opinions on Kyle Long as a 2nd round pick? He would move to LT.

Round 1: Chance Warmack
Round 2: Kyle Long
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
Opinions on Kyle Long as a 2nd round pick? He would move to LT.

Round 1: Chance Warmack
Round 2: Kyle Long


I don't want to bank on moving a college LG to NFL LT.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
Opinions on Kyle Long as a 2nd round pick? He would move to LT.

Round 1: Chance Warmack
Round 2: Kyle Long


That's about 2 rounds too early for Long.
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khodder wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
Opinions on Kyle Long as a 2nd round pick? He would move to LT.

Round 1: Chance Warmack
Round 2: Kyle Long


I don't want to bank on moving a college LG to NFL LT.


I think he played LT before Oregon
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AZPSquared wrote:
khodder wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
Opinions on Kyle Long as a 2nd round pick? He would move to LT.

Round 1: Chance Warmack
Round 2: Kyle Long


I don't want to bank on moving a college LG to NFL LT.


I think he played LT before Oregon


At a JuCo, maybe. Enrolled at FSU on a Baseball scholly, got caught DUI, left due to academics, went to Saddleback College for a a year then played two at Oregon as a Guard.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warmack, Jones works me for this year.

Either Jones actually, if Jarvis falls, we owe it to ourselves to take him.
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The Bama duo sets up our front for the next decade. Kolb succeeds with an OL and running game.
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The Bama duo sets up our front for the next decade. Kolb succeeds with an OL and running game.


Jones is getting a little over-inflated here. He is not a Pouncey/Mangold type at center. He has benefitted from playing alongside two of the best guards in the nation all of the past year and some.
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khodder wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
The Bama duo sets up our front for the next decade. Kolb succeeds with an OL and running game.


Jones is getting a little over-inflated here. He is not a Pouncey/Mangold type at center. He has benefitted from playing alongside two of the best guards in the nation all of the past year and some.


He was a reasonable LT (all sec etc) before moving to C remember that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
The Bama duo sets up our front for the next decade. Kolb succeeds with an OL and running game.


Jones is getting a little over-inflated here. He is not a Pouncey/Mangold type at center. He has benefitted from playing alongside two of the best guards in the nation all of the past year and some.


and he has a serious injury so his stock drops
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