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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the topic of offseason awards...

Jon Ekstrom ‏@JonEkstrom
Peter King lists @JASully65 [John Sullivan] , @AdrianPeterson and @BlairWalsh3 as All-Pros. Gives AD the MVP. #Vikings

Looks like a good list for all-pros to me. Is an all-pro award given to fullback? If so I'm assuming he gave Vonta Leach the nod.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpmwr19 wrote:
On the topic of offseason awards...

Jon Ekstrom ‏@JonEkstrom
Peter King lists @JASully65 [John Sullivan] , @AdrianPeterson and @BlairWalsh3 as All-Pros. Gives AD the MVP. #Vikings

Looks like a good list for all-pros to me. Is an all-pro award given to fullback? If so I'm assuming he gave Vonta Leach the nod.
He actually picked Michael Robinson of Seattle.
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I wasnt sure if I should make a new thread for this, but it seems like it should fit here. I found a website that broke down all player contracts including their 2013 cap hits. I compiled a list of the 2013 cap hits for each player under contract for reference this offseason. Sorry about the terrible layout, couldnt figure out a better way.

Player 2013 Cap Hit Remaining Contract
Jared Allen /17,863,956/ 1 year
Matt Asiata / / RFA
Chistian Ballard /656,888/ 2 years
M. Bethel-Thomson /482,500/ 1 year
Robert Blanton /532,763/ 3 years
Brandon Burton /597,250/ 2 years
Stephen Burton /555,000/ 2 years
John Carlson /4,250,000/ 4 years
Audi Cole /496,875/ 3 years
Larry Dean /555,000/ 1 year
Rhett Ellison/ 555,146/ 3 years
Fred Evans /1,500,000 /1 year
Brandon Fusco /578,556/ 2 years
Toby Gerhart /971,000/ 1 year
Chad Greenway /8,700,000/ 3 years
Everson Griffin /710,000/ 1 year
Letroy Guion /3,000,000/ 2 years
AJ Jefferson // RFA
Michael Jenkins /3,166,666 /1 year
Charlie Johnson /4,100,000 /1 year
George Johnson /630,000/ 1 year
Matt Kalil /4,493,318 3/ years
Chris Kluwe /1,450,000/ 1 year
Troy Kroprog /630,000/ 1 year
Cullen Loeffler /1,050,000/ 2 years
Tyrone McKenzie // RFA
Adrian Peterson /13,900,000/ 5 years
Christian Ponder /2,770,554/ 2 years
Mistral Raymond /579,483/ 2 years
D’Aundre Reed /567,563/ 2 years
Josh Robinson /664,250/ 3 years
Brian Robison /3,130,667/ 1 year
Kyle Rudolph /1,021,791/ 2 years
Andrew Sandejo // ERFA
Marcus Sherels // ERFA
Harrison Smith /1,622,397/ 3 years
John Sullivan /4,250,000/ 4 years
Blair Walsh /509,483/ 3 years
Joe Webb /598,128/ 1 year
Kevin Williams /8,000,000/ 2 years
Antoine Winfield /7,200,000 /1 year
Jarius Wright /585,027/ 3 years
Dead Money
376,667
Total Cap 2013
103,300,928

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spotrac is awesome Very Happy

I'm currently keeping tabs on it too via a Google doc
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 17 million plus Jared Allen cap hit has got to be one the first things they deal with. Hopefully they extend him and the new money goes to getting a upper tier WR.
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eman9416 wrote:
That 17 million plus Jared Allen cap hit has got to be one the first things they deal with. Hopefully they extend him and the new money goes to getting a upper tier WR.


Agreed, Allen will surely get taken care of, to not only reduce the cap hit, but to add more years. Allen can still be a valuable piece to the immediate future as a 10-14 sack per yr RE.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a 4 year deal is perfect for Allen. Takes him to 35 years old and lets him assess what he wants to do from there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let just say hypothethically that Allen/Winfield/K-Williams are not re-negoitating their salary (under their agents direction), until mid-off-season. Essentially they want to take their time, as they are not necessarily in any rush and I'm sure their agents want to see what some of the other free agents at their respective positions get

What does Rick do?

Lets remember that this is a very fair assessment of what may happen. How much money do they actually have to play with (without having to hit deal with the vets first, because potentially by the time you deal with the vets, you could have missed your chance on the actual free agents) ?

What if their agents are stubborn, what would you want to do? What do you think Rick does based on his past?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CriminalMind wrote:
Let just say hypothethically that Allen/Winfield/K-Williams are not re-negoitating their salary (under their agents direction), until mid-off-season. Essentially they want to take their time, as they are not necessarily in any rush and I'm sure their agents want to see what some of the other free agents at their respective positions get

What does Rick do?

Lets remember that this is a very fair assessment of what may happen. How much money do they actually have to play with (without having to hit deal with the vets first, because potentially by the time you deal with the vets, you could have missed your chance on the actual free agents) ?

What if their agents are stubborn, what would you want to do? What do you think Rick does based on his past?


Kevin Williams is easy for me, if he doesnt want to sign a cheaper deal you cut him. Williams's play really fell of by season's end and if he and his agent are going to throw a stink, you release. Or perhaps trade him for a late round pick if the cap hit isnt bad.

Winfield has to be kept, he is still a strong player and I can live with paying him $7M next year.

Jared Allen has to be kept as well. Though I think Allen is in the best position to renegotiate given that he is the youngest and still has a career ahead of him. I dont expect Allen to throw a fit if the Vikings go to him wanting to redo his deal. Allen probably wants to win now, so if he can shave off $7M off his deal to add a top free agent, im sure he would be on board.

If Allen does refuse, you pay him his full deal and sit tight on what salary you have.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with that assessment as I was thinking it as well:
Under that scenario:

K-Will is cut
Winfield is kept (@ 7M)
Allen - I could potentally seeing him (via his agent) not being prompt in re-negoitating his salary, and I'd keep him at the current salary if need be.

I dont think we'd actually have this amount of money to spend this offseason as are being forcasted in the mocks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Frazier has s say at all K-Will is going to be back next year.

Allen would be smart to renegotiate and get more guaranteed money. By extending his contract it's impossible, and against the CBA, for him to lose money in 2013. That money is his and by extending he would just get the money up front in a signing bonus instead of 17 weekly checks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a GM mock... Jags GM drove the price for Phil Loadholt up to 9.0M citing JJ Watt being in his division.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K-Will should be cut unless he can re-negotiate, He's solid but isn't near the player he used to be and we could address his position in the draft

Hopefully Winfield will take less money than 7 million for the good of the team but otherwise id pay him what he wants

Hypothetically if Allen won't re-negotiate to get his cap number under control i don't know what to do. I would almost test the market and see if you could get a 1st or 2nd rounder for him. I would hate to lose him but i don't think Griffen and Robinson would be as big of a drop off as we think. I don't think that'll be a problem though.
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Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
#Vikings announced they've signed punter T.J. Conley and CB Greg McCoy, who has been in camp with Arizona.


So the roster filling begins.
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I cut Kluwe in Madden for Conley. Laughing

I like the competition though.
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