now to the offseason...

[vike daddy]

[vikingsrule]

This thread is about the offseason, we dont need another discussion about Christian Ponder, he has his own thread.

Ponder isnt relevant to the offseason discussion anyway since his isnt at risk of losing his job.

[vike daddy]

fine.by.me.

thank you.
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[thestonedkoala]

Point is;

We need to have an open QB competition this year.

Cut Webb and our third stringer, bring in a guy like Matt Moore, draft a QB in the middle round, and then have an open competition and whoever wins, wins.

We also need to see about replacing our QB coach and our WR coach.

[vikingsrule]

[ArcticNorseman]

[vike daddy]

Here's a breakdown, with current 2013 cap numbers in parentheses, plus a list of 14 players who finished the season on the 53-man roster and are unsigned for next season:


Signed through 2013
• DE Jared Allen ($17,063,956)
• CB Antoine Winfield ($7.25 million)
• DE Brian Robison ($6,666,668)
• G Charlie Johnson ($4.35 million)*
• WR Michael Jenkins ($3,916,668)
• WR Percy Harvin ($2,678,800)
• NT Fred Evans ($1.75 million)
• P Chris Kluwe ($1.45 million)
• CB Chris Cook ($1.25 million)
• HB Toby Gerhart ($958,500)
• DL Everson Griffen ($710,000)
• DE George Johnson ($630,000)
• QB Joe Webb ($598,131)
• LB Tyrone McKenzie ($555,000)
• LB Larry Dean ($555,000)
• QB McLeod Bethel-Thompson ($482,500)
• RB Matt Asiata ($480,000)

Signed through 2014
• DT Kevin Williams ($7.5 million)
• DT Letroy Guion ($2.8 million)
• QB Christian Ponder ($2,770,554)
• TE Kyle Rudolph ($1,262,687)
• LS Cullen Loeffler ($1.05 million)
• DT Christian Ballard ($687,666)
• CB Brandon Burton ($612,937)
• OL DeMarcus Love ($590,581)
• S Mistral Raymond ($589,612)
• G Brandon Fusco ($588,917)
• DE D'Aundre Reed ($570,672)
• WR Stephen Burton ($555,000)
• P T.J. Conley ($480,000)
• CB Nick Taylor ($405,000)
• DT Chase Baker ($405,000)
• RB Joe Banyard ($405,000)
• TE LaMark Brown ($405,000)
• CB Bobby Felder ($405,000)
• TE Chase Ford ($405,000)
• OL Tyler Holmes ($405,000)
• CB Greg McCoy ($405,000)
• OL Kevin Murphy ($405,000)
• WR Chris Summers ($405,000)

Signed through 2015
• LB Chad Greenway ($8.7 million)
• T Matt Kalil ($4,493,318)
• S Harrison Smith ($1,622,397)
• CB Josh Robinson ($689,250)
• WR Jarius Wright ($585,027)
• TE Rhett Ellison ($555,146)
• S Robert Blanton ($532,763)
• PK Blair Walsh ($509,483)
• LB Audie Cole ($496,875)
• WR Greg Childs ($480,146)

Signed through 2016
• C John Sullivan ($4.25 million)
• TE John Carlson ($4 million)

Signed through 2017
• HB Adrian Peterson ($13.9 million)

Unsigned (14)
• WR Devin Aromashodu
• OL Joe Berger
• LB Jasper Brinkley
• FB Jerome Felton
• LB Erin Henderson
• OT Phil Loadholt
• LB Marvin Mitchell
• S Jamarca Sanford
• OL Geoff Schwartz
• WR Jerome Simpson
• CB A.J. Jefferson#
• OL Troy Kropog#
• S Andrew Sendejo@
• CB Marcus Sherels@

* Contract through 2015, but voidable after 2013
# Restricted free agent
@ Exclusive rights free agent

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Whos_signed_whos_not_for_2013_Jared_Allens_cap_number_over_17M011613
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[The Gnat]

So three real extension options I see on the team/rework contracts, Charlie Johnson, he isn't good but he can back up LT and LG if they replace him as a starter. Kevin Williams, making a lot of money for his production, not terrible value, but give him a longer deal, and Jared Allen, extend him out another four/five years and drop the cap number this year.

http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-team-cap-space-6/

For comparision, Vikings projected cap versus other projected caps. 10 teams have more money than they do, also 10 teams are likely over the cap assuming those numbers are accurate, which leaves 1 team with the same amount of cap space, and 10 teams with less.
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[Lil Uno]

Following Greg Childs on Twitter, he hinted that he is already running again a few days ago. Between what he said to reporters last week and what he's been saying on Twitter, I'm starting to get the feeling he could be ready for training camp.

How effective he could be is a whole nother story.
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[SteelKing728]

[ArcticNorseman]

VD . . . are those numbers alarming to you? I had no idea Everson Griffin was being paid $150k more than Reed . . . wow.

All thing considered, that's a lot of personnel to re-sign or part ways with in the next 2 years. I'd love to see Jared sign another 6 or 7 years because he's the type of guy that can produce well into his late 30s -- to the tune of 12 - 14 sacks a year.

K-will could restructure, but I don't see that happening just yet and sadly I can't think of one Vikings DT that started and ended a 10+ year career with the team. Alan Page, Henry Thomas, Keith Millard, John Randle and several others all moved on to other teams after their first couple of contracts expired with the Vikes.

I don't envy the brass trying to figure this out, but with a couple more good drafts and re-signing some/most of the current players, the Vikes roster should remain competitive the next few years -- if not get better.

[CriminalMind]

[VikeManDan]

[vikingsrule]

I agree that Griffen is a player that must be resigned. He is more vital going forward than Brian Robison given the age difference.

[CriminalMind]

He really should not be counted on as anything more then #6 option right now. Build the WR core assuming he wont be available at camp. If he exceeds expectations, and returns (tho I wont rush him) thats an additional benefit.
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