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big_palooka


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
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DOCLEW 28 wrote:
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And he just got his butt canned because his defense that he was "in charge of' was crap. The excuse here was that it was Al davis' fault. What is the excuse now? Was this all Jerry Jones' fault? Or is he a guy that just can't get it done?

So we would be here talking about hiring another coach probably. Rolling Eyes


His defense wasn't crap. Had terrible CBs his 1st year and the defense improved the 2nd year. Ryan being let go is a scapegoat for their offense with the turnovers and not being able ti run the ball. Jones loves Garrett.


But his defenses couldn't stop anyone. This is the 2nd place where he got canned or simply let go. When will the excuses stop? It always seems to be someone else's fault with this guy.


His defense gets exhausted from the offense. Romo was in the top 5 in turnovers age past 2 years and Cleveland's offense can't move the chains. He improves every D he takes over. Even ours. The Al Davis prevent defense point is valid. Al has put that in all the DCs that have been here the past decade. I'm not saying he's the best guy but there but his defenses are usually in the top 10 vs the pass even with us. I mean we had 4-3 guys trying to play a 3-4. Sapp at DE for example.

Also he hasn't been getting canned. The entire staff from Cleveland and here were gone. Just new coaches and GMs bringing in their own staffs. This was the only time he was let go by his self. Its a scape goat for Dallas to keep Garrett.


same thing that happened with us this year


That's pretty laughable. I suggest you go back and watch the defense some more.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has a point. You seriously never saw that happen? They played off each other so bad in the beginning of the year.
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I wonder if Philly would trade us Ryans for McClain now that they are likely switching to a 3-4. I think it would be a good fit for both. THey could pair him with Kendricks inside. Houston traded Ryans supposedly because he didnt fit the 3-4 and he did well in the 4-3 last season. Personally I think he can play either.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder if Philly would trade us Ryans for McClain now that they are likely switching to a 3-4. I think it would be a good fit for both. THey could pair him with Kendricks inside. Houston traded Ryans supposedly because he didnt fit the 3-4 and he did well in the 4-3 last season. Personally I think he can play either.




Talk about dreamland.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
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I wonder if Philly would trade us Ryans for McClain now that they are likely switching to a 3-4. I think it would be a good fit for both. THey could pair him with Kendricks inside. Houston traded Ryans supposedly because he didnt fit the 3-4 and he did well in the 4-3 last season. Personally I think he can play either.




Talk about dreamland.


And the rabbits.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Packaged deal.... Pryor and McClain for Foles and Ryans..... that trade is so damn lopsided it's not even funny....................... in their favor!!!! Yep, they should just do it. They would totally be trade-raping us.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norv is now the Browns OC.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
And he just got his butt canned because his defense that he was "in charge of' was crap. The excuse here was that it was Al davis' fault. What is the excuse now? Was this all Jerry Jones' fault? Or is he a guy that just can't get it done?

So we would be here talking about hiring another coach probably. Rolling Eyes


His defense wasn't crap. Had terrible CBs his 1st year and the defense improved the 2nd year. Ryan being let go is a scapegoat for their offense with the turnovers and not being able ti run the ball. Jones loves Garrett.


But his defenses couldn't stop anyone. This is the 2nd place where he got canned or simply let go. When will the excuses stop? It always seems to be someone else's fault with this guy.


His defense gets exhausted from the offense. Romo was in the top 5 in turnovers age past 2 years and Cleveland's offense can't move the chains. He improves every D he takes over. Even ours. The Al Davis prevent defense point is valid. Al has put that in all the DCs that have been here the past decade. I'm not saying he's the best guy but there but his defenses are usually in the top 10 vs the pass even with us. I mean we had 4-3 guys trying to play a 3-4. Sapp at DE for example.

Also he hasn't been getting canned. The entire staff from Cleveland and here were gone. Just new coaches and GMs bringing in their own staffs. This was the only time he was let go by his self. Its a scape goat for Dallas to keep Garrett.


same thing that happened with us this year


That's pretty laughable. I suggest you go back and watch the defense some more.


um i made a post about it mid season on how the defense holds teams to 13 points or less by half time.
- the offense didnt even have a first qtr td until the 2nd denver game iirc and that was the only one they had all year lol.
- not to mention the 3rd down %
- the offense only scored 28 tds all year lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--eagles--new-coach-chip-kelly-face-dilemma-on-what-to-do-with-michael-vick-020405052.html

good article about chip, vick and foles
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing Kelly in that Eagles shirt was weird.

If he had a 'stache and wore glasses he'd look like a smaller Andy Reid.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idk if its been posted but the Broncos hired Knapp as QB coach. Talk about being paid to do nothing..
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chali21 wrote:
Idk if its been posted but the Broncos hired Knapp as QB coach. Talk about being paid to do nothing..


Well he does have a 2nd year QB to develop
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