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ch8878
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Coaches Let Go :
Greg Knapp - Offensive Coordinator
Frank Pollack - Offensive Line
Steve Hoffman - Special Teams Coordinator
Johnny Holland - Linebackers Coach
New Coaches brought in :
Al Saunders - Offensive Coordinator - Al Saunders had No. 1 finishes in consecutive years from 2002-2005 in Kansas City, but more importantly, he had the Raiders offense in the Top 10 in 2011. Don't forget that he did it with an injured McFadden, and Palmer off the couch after starter Jason Campbell was injured.
Steve Wisniewski - Offensive Line - Raiders need him back
Keith Burns - Special Teams Coordinator - Promotion on the staff
Greg Biekert - Linebackers Coach - Raiders need him back
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*Last Years Cuts frees up around $12M in CAP Space* (Not to sure what the number is)
Resignings :
QB - Carson Palmer - Restructures 2 year $20M ($2M in Bonuses, $9M per year, 2nd year not guaranteed)- Raiders have no other option
TE - Brandon Myers - Raiders have no choice, but to keep him
FB - Jamize Olawale - Marcel Reece 2.0
CB - Phillip Adams - Back-up corner back, and ST's
RB - Jeremy Stewart - Depth
C - Alex Parsons - Back-up center
DT - Desmond Bryant - Depth
SLB - Kaelin Burnett - Depth
SS - Mike Mitchell - Bigger role
FS - Michael Huff - Restructures contract will play CB
CB - Coye Francies - CB Depth
OLB - Philip Wheeler - Starter
DE - Andre Carter - DE Depth
DB - Brandian Ross - S Depth
WLB - Keenan Clayton - ST and Depth
OT - Zach Hurd - Depth
Cuts :
DT - Tommy Kelly - One word "Slob"
DT - Richard Seymour - Too old lost his edge
P - Shane Lechler - Walks via FA
CB - Ron Bartell - Don't want him back
DE - Dave Tollefson - One word "Sucks"
TE - Richard Gordon - Not good enough
RT - Khalif Barnes - One word "Stinks"
LG - Cooper Carlisle - Retires
FS - Matt Giordano - Lost cause
FB - Owen Schmitt - Not good enough
MLB - Rolando McClain - One word "Bum"
QB - Matt Leinart - One word "Sucks"
RB - Taiwan Jones - Unless he blows Reggie away playing CB hes as good as gone
WR - Derek Hagan - Walks via FA
RB - Mike Goodson - Walks via FA
CB - Joselio Hanson - Nickle corner back addressed via draft
RG - Mike Brisiel - Didn't work out
*After the Cuts Raiders free up even more CAP room*
FA Signings :
WR - Greg Jennings
DT - Glenn Dorsey
LG - Chilo Rachal
CB - Dominic Rogers-Cromartie
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7th round via Carolina for Louis Murphy
6th round compensatory pick via Michael Bush
*Draft Trade and Details*
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey- Traded to Jets
4th Round Pick - Traded to Oakland
1st Round - #3 Pick - Oakland selects - Barkevious Mingo - 6'4", 240 pounds - OLB, LSU - 40 time 4.57
Raiders not only need a pass rusher, but they need a game changer Barkevious Mingo is the total package.
3rd Round - #64 Pick - Oakland selects - Kyle Long - 6'7", 312 pounds - OT, Oregon
4th Round - #Unknown because of Trade with Jets - Malliciah Goodman - 6'4", 280 pounds - DE, Clemson
4th Round - #Unknown because of compensatory picks - Brandon Williams - 6'2", 328 pounds - Missouri Southern State
6th Round - #Unknown - Tyrann Mathieu - 5'09" 180LBs, CB, LSU
6th Round (compensatory pick via Michael Bush) - #Unknown - Brad Sorensen - 6'4", 235 pounds - QB, Southern Utah
7th Round - #Unknown - Greg Blair - 6'1", 252 pounds - ILB, Cincinnati
7th Round (via Carolina for Louis Murphy) - #Unknown - Cierre Wood - 6'0", 215 pounds - RB, Notre Dame
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*Key Rookie free agent signs*
Mychal Rivera - 6'3" 245 pounds - TE, Tennessee
Wes Horton - 6'5" 255 pounds - DE, USC
Rontez Miles - 6'0", 205 pounds - SS, California (PA)
Travis Bond - 6'6", 340 pounds - LG, North Carolina
Matt Summers-Gavin - 6'4", 300 pounds - RT, California
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*53 Man Roster*
Offence :
QB - Carson Palmer - Terrelle Pryor - Brad Sorensen
RB - Darren McFadden - Cierre Wood - Jeremy Stewart
FB - Marcel Reece - Jamize Olawale
TE - Brandon Myers - David Ausberry - Mychal Rivera
WR 1 - Greg Jennings - Denarius Moore - Juron Criner
WR 2 - Rod Streater - Jacoby Ford
LT - Jared Veldheer - Zach Hurd
LG - Chilo Rachal - Travis Bond
C - Stefen Wisniewski - Alex Parsons
RG - Tony Bergstrom - Lucas Nix
RT - Kyle Long - Matt Summers-Gavin
Deffence :
RDE - Malliciah Goodman - Andre Carter
DT - Christo Bilukidi - Brandon Williams
NT - Desmond Bryant - Glenn Dorsey
LDE - Lamarr Houston - Jack Crawford - Wes Horton
WLB - Barkevious Mingo - Keenan Clayton
MLB - Miles Burris - Greg Blair
SLB - Philip Wheeler - Kaelin Burnett
RCB - Dominic Rogers-Cromartie - Phillip Adams - Coye Francies
LCB - Michael Huff - Tyrann Mathieu
FS - Tyvon Branch - Brandian Ross
SS - Mike Mitchell - Rontez Miles
Special Teams :
K - Sebastian Janikowski
P - Marquette King
KR - Jacoby Ford - Tyrann Mathieu - Phillip Adams
PR - Tyrann Mathieu - Jacoby Ford - Phillip Adams
*UPDATED*
Changed a few things forgot a few players
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JTagg7754
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RT at 5th overall 
You just don't do that.....
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not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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Totty
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | RT at 5th overall
You just don't do that..... |
With all the needs we have, you are correct.
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ch8878
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | RT at 5th overall
You just don't do that..... |
Why don't you do that ?
The word around the NFL he can play LT, and RT
If JV struggles again he'll be either moved to RT or let go.
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JTagg7754
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| ch8878 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | RT at 5th overall
You just don't do that..... |
Why don't you do that ?
The word around the NFL he can play LT, and RT
If JV struggles again he'll be either moved to RT or let go. |
Totty said why above but you also just said. "The word" = no certainty and the value of the position isn't as high as it would be in other places. Seriously though, look at the history of the draft. How many RTs have ever been chosen in the top 10?
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you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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JTagg7754
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Just wanted to bring this up also since I've focused so much more on the RT thing but the overhaul of your defense, although I don't know how possible it is, I would like to see it happen.
I wanted William Moore badly coming out of college.
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you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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ch8878
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | ch8878 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | RT at 5th overall
You just don't do that..... |
Why don't you do that ?
The word around the NFL he can play LT, and RT
If JV struggles again he'll be either moved to RT or let go. |
Totty said why above but you also just said. "The word" = no certainty and the value of the position isn't as high as it would be in other places. Seriously though, look at the history of the draft. How many RTs have ever been chosen in the top 10? |
Seeing the draft is loaded with all other needed positions why wouldn't you take the #2 overall OT in the draft ?
Sorry I'm not convinced Jared Veldheer is a LT in the league.
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ch8878
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | Just wanted to bring this up also since I've focused so much more on the RT thing but the overhaul of your defense, although I don't know how possible it is, I would like to see it happen.
I wanted William Moore badly coming out of college. |
The reason I picked Jake Matthews is OT won't be cheap via Free agents, and he is the #2 rated OT in the draft if he comes out.
Yes the defense needs an overhaul.
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JTagg7754
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B?c I don't feel he's the number 2 rated OT in the draft.... and he's a right tackle which you don't draft that early.
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you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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oakdb36
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| ch8878 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | Just wanted to bring this up also since I've focused so much more on the RT thing but the overhaul of your defense, although I don't know how possible it is, I would like to see it happen.
I wanted William Moore badly coming out of college. |
The reason I picked Jake Matthews is OT won't be cheap via Free agents, and he is the #2 rated OT in the draft if he comes out.
Yes the defense needs an overhaul. |
As mentioned above his projected position usually isn't valued in the top 5. He also can't be the BPA at #5 and with so many needs, we shouldn't have to reach on anyone. And if you don't think Veldheer is a LT, why not draft Joeckel when you have the opportunity?
A few more things. What blocking scheme are we using? Boothe was let go when we switched to the ZBS under Cable because he didn't fit.
Restructuring means laying out the same contract basis in a different manner (changing the structure), in most cases to fit the salary cap. Palmer's contract for the next 2 years is for 28M. Is he going to take a pay cut?
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| Totty wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | RT at 5th overall
You just don't do that..... |
With all the needs we have, you are correct. |
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big_palooka
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: Re: ch8878 Mock Offseason |
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CB - Darius Butler - Raiders need a #1 corner back
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And they would need a #1, #2 and #3 after signing Butler. That guy is awful. Why does he keep popping up around here?
3rd for DHB. Are you mad? DHB is going to be cut because of his ugly contract number. Nobody is giving up a 3rd for a WR of his ilk. You can get better URFA WRs than him (as the Raiders did in Streeter).
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Chali21
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Here's a question, after trading down to number five lets say Star, Moore, and Jones have all been selected, who do you take?
The RT? I mean we really really need one and have been needing one for almost a decade.
The Guard? He's the best player in the draft at a position we need because someone needs to displace Carlisle.
Werner? Nonstop motor but honestly i think hed be a lot like Houston but he can potentially be a pass rushing beast. Plus...looks like Bane.
Te'o? No one drafts a LB that high, but this team has been dealing with garbage linebackers forever.
So at that point..who do you pick?
Me I'd go Werner. |
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NCOUGHMAN
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i really like the draft the offseason not so much
jake matt has great value and to trade down (to whatever) and get him is icing on the cake. imo he is the #2 ot on the board and he can play LT or RT. id like to give jv another shot at lt.
only pick im dicey about is the so carolina dude he is very tall and unless he bulks up he will get pushed around in the nfl
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| ch8878 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | Just wanted to bring this up also since I've focused so much more on the RT thing but the overhaul of your defense, although I don't know how possible it is, I would like to see it happen.
I wanted William Moore badly coming out of college. |
The reason I picked Jake Matthews is OT won't be cheap via Free agents, and he is the #2 rated OT in the draft if he comes out.
Yes the defense needs an overhaul. |
Lewan is the #2 OT. But in any case, RT at #5 is bad value unless its your biggest need and there's a blue chipper. I think FA is a little unrealistic but hey, people could say the same of mine I guess.
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