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Entropy

Joined: 16 Jul 2012
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

bulldog wrote:

I wanted Chip. Now I'm sad.

Why do the browns lose out on everything they want?

Erm, Lerners got their first choices usually

their first choices just seemed to be wrong most of the time

Yes, IIRC, Mangini, Davis, Savage...maybe RAC were all first or "really high" choices, right?
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Dropkick_pride

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Entropy wrote:

Rosters win football games, coaches help to develop rosters, rosters are NOT really developed from scratch after 2 or 3 years...

Everyone except Heckert damaged the roster...also, there was little chance to develop it with constant change

"Miracle coach" doesn't do much better than Shurmur..."miracle QB" doesn't do much better than Weeden given the roster we had.

The roster situation we had was due to poor and impatient decisions in the past.

2012? Disagree. A more aggressive coach and who makes less time managements mistakes wins a couple more games. A better QB could have pushed this team into playoffs - see P Manning impact on the broncos offense.

dude went for it on 4th and 3 from his own 35 and called a double reverse in teh rain that would have gone for a TD had Benji not fumbled

lets not act like the dude never was aggressive

What game was that? He did that earlier in the season?
- never said he was NEVER aggressive.

Oh wait... Your hardon... I forgot.
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mistakebytehlak

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Think of it this way... Good chance Kelly would have blown up this roster that has been built. Possibly brought in a bunch of weak running QBs???

Now hopefully we get a good coach that will continue to build the team instead of nuking it.

A coach with nfl experience...

pure 100% speculation

Also, NFL HC experience is overrated, which is im sure where you're goign considering your hardons for lovie smith and every other ex NFL retread

mccarthy 1st time NFL HC
payton 1st time NFL HC
harbaugh 1st time NFL HC (both of em)
tomlin 1st time NFL HC
mike smith 1st time NFL HC
gary kubiak 1st time NFL HC

Considering your "hardon" for shurmur I will take my chances.

Rather go down swinging giving a new guy a shot trying to find the next mike mccarthy instead of failing with denny green or jim haslett

No guy has won a SB with two different teams right? I can see wanting that...

But personally, I want a team that can over .500 a couple years and maybe make the playoffs once in awhile... Maybe not fire the HC in 2 years again... Then maybe I'll think about winning a SB. Crying or Very sad

why shoot for mediocrity?

Not mediocrity.... Rather Reality.

no the reality is that you just described wanting a coach that can take us to mediocrity

Considering the team is one of the worst in the last 20 years...

"Mediocre" if that is what you want to call it, sounds great to start with.

Yep! great idea! our rise to greatness is a two coach process!
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mistakebytehlak

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject:

Entropy wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

bulldog wrote:

I wanted Chip. Now I'm sad.

Why do the browns lose out on everything they want?

Erm, Lerners got their first choices usually

their first choices just seemed to be wrong most of the time

Yes, IIRC, Mangini, Davis, Savage...maybe RAC were all first or "really high" choices, right?

and holmgren
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Entropy

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:02 pm Post subject:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Entropy wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

bulldog wrote:

I wanted Chip. Now I'm sad.

Why do the browns lose out on everything they want?

Erm, Lerners got their first choices usually

their first choices just seemed to be wrong most of the time

Yes, IIRC, Mangini, Davis, Savage...maybe RAC were all first or "really high" choices, right?

and holmgren

yessir, thought that one was obvious
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mistakebytehlak

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:03 pm Post subject:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Entropy wrote:

dude went for it on 4th and 3 from his own 35 and called a double reverse in teh rain that would have gone for a TD had Benji not fumbled

lets not act like the dude never was aggressive

What game was that? He did that earlier in the season?
- never said he was NEVER aggressive.

Oh wait... Your hardon... I forgot.

the double reverse in the rain, coulda sworn that was SD
going for it on 4th from our own 35- was a game or two (maybe 3?... now that I think about it I think it was before the DAL game) before the 3 game winning streak. Ether and I got into an argument about how it was close to the time that Bill Belichick went for it on 4th from his own 35

cant remember the exact game.
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NickZambo

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject:

bulldog wrote:

I wanted Chip. Now I'm sad.

Why do the browns lose out on everything they want?

Lower your standards: the motto of a cleveland fan...
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bruceb

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

that dunn's not an amateur and you're talking out of your behind

All framed in the alternative.

Too complicated for you?
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Dropkick_pride

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject:

Entropy wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Entropy wrote:

Disagree, A more agressive coach asks inexperienced players to do things they don't know how to do, resulting in more mistakes.

-see P Manning's team's rookie starts

You I'd not say rooki QB in your statement. You said "miracle QB"

Sometimes you have to push your players and take chances to be successful. Shurmur didn't get that and called his games very conservatively even when it meant losing the game.... Until the very end when he was leery fired.
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Entropy

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Entropy wrote:

dude went for it on 4th and 3 from his own 35 and called a double reverse in teh rain that would have gone for a TD had Benji not fumbled

lets not act like the dude never was aggressive

What game was that? He did that earlier in the season?
- never said he was NEVER aggressive.

Oh wait... Your hardon... I forgot.

Wait, so he was more agressive later in the season after his rookie starters had more experience, and this is different than how things are best done how?
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Dropkick_pride

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

mistakebytehlak wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Considering your "hardon" for shurmur I will take my chances.

Rather go down swinging giving a new guy a shot trying to find the next mike mccarthy instead of failing with denny green or jim haslett

why shoot for mediocrity?

Not mediocrity.... Rather Reality.

no the reality is that you just described wanting a coach that can take us to mediocrity

Considering the team is one of the worst in the last 20 years...

"Mediocre" if that is what you want to call it, sounds great to start with.

Yep! great idea! our rise to greatness is a two coach process!

Never said two coaches...

But two coaches is better than... I'm sorry I forget... How many ave we gone through now ?
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Entropy

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:06 pm Post subject:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Entropy wrote:

Dropkick_pride wrote:

Entropy wrote:

Disagree, A more agressive coach asks inexperienced players to do things they don't know how to do, resulting in more mistakes.

-see P Manning's team's rookie starts

You are generalizing concepts that apply to experienced teams to the team with the most rookie starts in the NFL the past 2 years.

THAT is overgeneralization.
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ReggieCamp

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:07 pm Post subject:

Welp...

1. Looks like Kelly won't be coming to Cleveland.
2. This thread has turned into a bickering fest.
3. It's over 100 pages.
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